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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes I know and agree that it seems problematic. I'm just saying that Tim has a point. Unless this can be shown to be in contrast with normal SD protocol, it falls under the category of partisan bull****. And, as I already pointed out, the partisan left wouldn't indict her on this even if a Quid pro quo was produced. IOW, as usual, partisan politics at its finest.


    Try again Monte and I doubt the AP is being partisan. It was a nice try on your behalf. Not even Jimmy Carter has 330 requests in any small time span. Moreover reading the link gives a couple of specifics.



    By the end of January 2011, Clinton had mingled with top Barclays clients at a private dinner in Davos, Switzerland, and at a conference in Singapore and collected $650,000 in fees for his work.

    The State Department's scrutiny, which went beyond the standard ethics requirements for all federal officials, was a voluntary process agreed to by both Clintons to avoid "even the appearance of a conflict of interest," according to a January 2009 memo sent by David Kendall, Bill Clinton's personal lawyer, to Jim Thessin, who oversaw the vetting in the State Department. Clinton's office agreed to provide the names of organizations hosting the former president at least 14 days before the event, according to the memo. Lawyers at the agency would then aim to complete their review within five days.

    Only a handful of proposed arrangements appear to have been rejected. A consulting contract with Saban Capital Group Inc., a firm headed by major Clinton donor Haim Saban, was rejected because of what the State Department deemed as Saban's active involvement in foreign affairs, particularly the Middle East. On Thursday, Saban hosted a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's campaign at his Beverly Hills home, raising at least $1.2 million from 450 attendees.....snip~

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Nah, it only "plays" to show your hatred toward anything not neocon.
    You're over the edge.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

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    You're over the edge.
    Right there in that link American. It says that State rejected a request from Saban due to involvement in foreign affairs. Yet on Thursday he raised 1.2 mil for Hillary.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    You really wanna go down that path? Mitt Romeny is collecting a fat check from them giving speeches to the same group (Barclays). <snip>
    I don't think Mitt Romney's wife is Secretary of State.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    I would ask conservatives who raise objections here this question:

    Under what circumstances should the state department have said no to a private citizen speaking at a private event, and how many of these speeches meet that criteria?
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't think Mitt Romney's wife is Secretary of State.
    So what? Exactly what is the objection here?

    People aren't asking Bill Clinton to speak at an event because he is the husband of (former) SecState. They are asking him to speak because he is Bill Clinton, former President of the United States.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Try again Monte and I doubt the AP is being partisan. It was a nice try on your behalf. Not even Jimmy Carter has 330 requests in any small time span. Moreover reading the link gives a couple of specifics.



    By the end of January 2011, Clinton had mingled with top Barclays clients at a private dinner in Davos, Switzerland, and at a conference in Singapore — and collected $650,000 in fees for his work.

    The State Department's scrutiny, which went beyond the standard ethics requirements for all federal officials, was a voluntary process agreed to by both Clintons to avoid "even the appearance of a conflict of interest," according to a January 2009 memo sent by David Kendall, Bill Clinton's personal lawyer, to Jim Thessin, who oversaw the vetting in the State Department. Clinton's office agreed to provide the names of organizations hosting the former president at least 14 days before the event, according to the memo. Lawyers at the agency would then aim to complete their review within five days.

    Only a handful of proposed arrangements appear to have been rejected. A consulting contract with Saban Capital Group Inc., a firm headed by major Clinton donor Haim Saban, was rejected because of what the State Department deemed as Saban's active involvement in foreign affairs, particularly the Middle East. On Thursday, Saban hosted a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's campaign at his Beverly Hills home, raising at least $1.2 million from 450 attendees.....snip~

    US approved most Bill Clinton speech requests within days
    Dude, I've already agreed with you that it is suspicious. But as Tim pointed out, unless it can be shown that its a break from SD norms, its a non story. Demonstrate that or drop it.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    This would have more legs if you could show that the process of approving similar requests took longer or was out of the norm?

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    Yup, the AP didn't do a great job here. It should say "Normally it takes x days/months to approve a request". Responsible journalism is a thing of the past.

    I think the much bigger "story" here is exactly who he was asking permission to hang with. A great number of them - including Barclays - were under investigation by our government.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So what? Exactly what is the objection here?

    People aren't asking Bill Clinton to speak at an event because he is the husband of (former) SecState. They are asking him to speak because he is Bill Clinton, former President of the United States.
    You have to ask the person who brought up Romney's name.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, the AP didn't do a great job here. It should say "Normally it takes x days/months to approve a request". Responsible journalism is a thing of the past.

    I think the much bigger "story" here is exactly who he was asking permission to hang with. A great number of them - including Barclays - were under investigation by our government.
    I agree with both points.
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