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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. We have the NSA spying on all Americans, Amash tries to kill that, the republicans kill the Amash amendment, and the court rules that the NSA is operating outside the constitution. That's just one example of US democracy at its finest. Why are conservatives so hostile to our constitution and international law. Really is pitiful.
    The NSA may or may not be outside the Constitution. I'll wait for the SCOTUS on that and be happy with whatever their decision is. IL is optional.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    If the Paks were really in the loop then best for all would have been to quietly hand over OBL. That did not happen. Why? Because Hersh's story is fantasy.
    Yes, I'm aware of your pattern of thinking. I don't know whether Hersh's story is true or not. Hersh does have more credibility than you can ever muster up, but it's not really my focal point. I like the for public ears, capture or kill, but for private ears, assasination aspect of the whole thing anyway.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, I'm aware of your pattern of thinking. I don't know whether Hersh's story is true or not. Hersh does have more credibility than you can ever muster up, but it's not really my focal point. I like the for public ears, capture or kill, but for private ears, assasination aspect of the whole thing anyway.
    Hersh has been right about half the time in his career.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The NSA may or may not be outside the Constitution. I'll wait for the SCOTUS on that and be happy with whatever their decision is. IL is optional.
    Along with ethics, and legitimacy, and your the biggest apologist for it, all the while condemning other countries. That's very self defeating if one really does wish for other countries to honor IL. That's it for me Jack, you may have the last word. As usual, I've grown bored with you.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Hersh has been right about half the time in his career.
    Your opinion.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Along with ethics, and legitimacy, and your the biggest apologist for it, all the while condemning other countries. That's very self defeating if one really does wish for other countries to honor IL. That's it for me Jack, you may have the last word. As usual, I've grown bored with you.
    As you wish. I'd think you'd be bored with being wrong all the time.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your opinion.
    It's the record.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Given the Pakistan military's history with the Taliban I can understand why the WH wouldn't tell them about the mission. Bin Laden's compound was just a few blocks from a Pakistan military base. How did he manage to live there for so long (5 years?) under the Pakistan military's nose unless they were allowing him to be there? They certainly had plenty of time to capture Bin Laden themselves.

    It might be easier to believe Hersh's story if he gave the name of his source. He's not just calling the WH liars...but he's also calling the Seals liars, too.

    This quote sums it up for me.....

    "...citing CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen's comment that "what's true in this story isn't new, and what's new in the story isn't true."
    If I was sending in a crew of SEALS to capture Bin Laden the last people I would want in on the mission is the Pakistans. Five minutes after you told the Pakistanis the plan Bin Laden would have gotten the news.

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    If I was sending in a crew of SEALS to capture Bin Laden the last people I would want in on the mission is the Pakistans. Five minutes after you told the Pakistanis the plan Bin Laden would have gotten the news.

    That's what I think, too. If only Hersh had bothered to check Wikipedia first...lol....


    Allegations of support system in Pakistan for Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Hersh has done good work in the past but his story sounds less plausible than the official one and it relies on just one source.

    But both stories end in OBL being dead so I'm good.

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