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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    Everyone outside of america knows bin died of kidney disease in 2001.
    Hyperbole much! Though that does seem to be the indication of his death.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I read the story and it sounds plausible. And Hersh isn't a crank - he's not always popular, but I don't know of any cases where his credibility has been successfully challenged. So I expect his story is well sourced.

    And reading the CNN snippet you quoted makes it seem more likely the story is true.

    "A U.S. official with detailed knowledge of the outreach to the Pakistanis after the raid..." If the WH wants to debunk a story, put the official on the record with a name and a title.

    Just as a general comment, I'm sick and damn tired of information coming from the Feds through anonymous sources like that, and I'm sick and tired of our "news" outlets allowing that BS. There is absolutely no reason for an official spouting the company line to require anonymity as a condition of revealing what is the approved government position on this.

    That's how all those stories about WMD and nuclear threats and all the rest read in the runup to the Iraq war. You'd think the "news" outlets would have learned their lesson and required those sources to go on the record or their talking points don't get published. The spinelessness of our media makes me want to puke sometimes.
    He does have credibility, but he has also acknowledged that he's gotten it wrong before. He even acknowledged a point that he got wrong in this story. I suppose that bolsters his credibility.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Hmmmmm, Let's see....former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill vs. Seymour Hersh's anonymous source......LOL!!!!


    Former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill, who shot and killed Usama bin Laden, blasted claims by journalist Seymour Hersh that the government lied about the raid.
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    But the former Navy SEAL is not the only one with harsh criticism. Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland was also skeptical of the report.

    "There's a couple things that don't ring true,” she said on America’s Newsroom. "To me, it doesn't pass the smell test.”

    'Ludicrous': Navy Seal Who Shot Bin Laden Blasts Seymour Hersh Article - Fox Nation
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Hmmmmm, Let's see....former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill vs. Seymour Hersh's anonymous source......LOL!!!!
    Where's the conflict. If Hersh's assertions were true, why would the Seal needed to have been privy to it. It would make more sense that the Seals wouldn't be. BTW, I would prefer to see more from Hersh on this.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It was a "kill or capture" mission. But of course nobody believed he was going to be captured, even though he made no aggressive moves and was posed as though prepared for capture. While the first Seal in has stated there were two weapons in the room, neither were in OBL's possession and he gave no indication of a fight.

    The Associated Press cited two U.S. officials as stating the operation was "a kill-or-capture mission, since the U.S. doesn't kill unarmed people trying to surrender"
    Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    If the story is true, it would make sense to have this as a kill mission.
    Either a live rallying point or a dead one, swimming with the fishes. I go with sending him off as fish bait.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Seymour Hersh is purveying a falsehood.
    Also an outstanding investigative journalist, who broke many a story. And a royal pain in the ass to the Obama administration. Other as well mind you.

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    If the story is true, it would make sense to have this as a kill mission.
    Either a live rallying point or a dead one, swimming with the fishes. I go with sending him off as fish bait.
    That's fine, but that's not the point. It was commissioned as a CAPTURE or kill. In an interview on POTUS radio, the seal that killed him said, we don't assassinate people, regardless of what people say. He said that right after he said that when he entered the room, standing was OBL's wife, standing next to her, with his hand on her shoulder was OBL, and standing in the middle of the room was his young son, frozen in shock. So, an unarmed, non threatening OBL, should have been captured. Apparently, the "capture or kill" nature of the mission was for domestic audiences, and the real order was assassination. Because the Seal that killed an unarmed non threatening OBL wasn't in any trouble for it.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Also an outstanding investigative journalist, who broke many a story. And a royal pain in the ass to the Obama administration. Other as well mind you.

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    A pain in many presidents asses.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A pain in many presidents asses.
    Doing what a true journalist does.
    The other 99 % are wananbees
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's fine, but that's not the point. It was commissioned as a CAPTURE or kill. In an interview on POTUS radio, the seal that killed him said, we don't assassinate people, regardless of what people say. He said that right after he said that when he entered the room, standing was OBL's wife, standing next to her, with his hand on her shoulder was OBL, and standing in the middle of the room was his young son, frozen in shock. So, an unarmed, non threatening OBL, should have been captured. Apparently, the "capture or kill" nature of the mission was for domestic audiences, and the real order was assassination. Because the Seal that killed an unarmed non threatening OBL wasn't in any trouble for it.
    If you were in the Presidents chair, making the decision, what decision would be the right one.
    Capture or kill?
    I vote for kill.
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