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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Seymour Hersh is purveying a falsehood.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    I tend to think the guy has a point, but a lot of his info doesn't add up completely, but I always believed that the Pakistanis were involved to some degree.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No one ever believed OBL would be taken alive.
    So it was an assassination mission.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So it was an assassination mission.
    It was a combat mission.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It was a combat mission.
    It was a "kill or capture" mission. But of course nobody believed he was going to be captured, even though he made no aggressive moves and was posed as though prepared for capture. While the first Seal in has stated there were two weapons in the room, neither were in OBL's possession and he gave no indication of a fight.

    The Associated Press cited two U.S. officials as stating the operation was "a kill-or-capture mission, since the U.S. doesn't kill unarmed people trying to surrender"
    Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    ‘Utter nonsense’: CIA, White House blast explosive bin Laden raid story

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    Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reported that the U.S. and Pakistan collaborated closely.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I tend to think the guy has a point, but a lot of his info doesn't add up completely, but I always believed that the Pakistanis were involved to some degree.
    Does that not fail the logic test? If the Pakistanis cooperated, why would we go out of our way afterward to embarrass them by saying we kept them in the dark?
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    I read the story and it sounds plausible. And Hersh isn't a crank - he's not always popular, but I don't know of any cases where his credibility has been successfully challenged. So I expect his story is well sourced.

    And reading the CNN snippet you quoted makes it seem more likely the story is true.

    "A U.S. official with detailed knowledge of the outreach to the Pakistanis after the raid..." If the WH wants to debunk a story, put the official on the record with a name and a title.

    Just as a general comment, I'm sick and damn tired of information coming from the Feds through anonymous sources like that, and I'm sick and tired of our "news" outlets allowing that BS. There is absolutely no reason for an official spouting the company line to require anonymity as a condition of revealing what is the approved government position on this.

    That's how all those stories about WMD and nuclear threats and all the rest read in the runup to the Iraq war. You'd think the "news" outlets would have learned their lesson and required those sources to go on the record or their talking points don't get published. The spinelessness of our media makes me want to puke sometimes.

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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    lol..... Obama /facepalm


    It's shocking anyone believed the original narrative of the WH in the first place.


    Remember how Obama boasted about "killing bin laden" over and over again.
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    Re: White House rejects Seymour Hersh 'baseless assertions' on bin Laden raid

    Everyone outside of america knows bin died of kidney disease in 2001.

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