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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

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    Try again Monte.....now just where did I accuse China of anything. You were asked what do you do when they make an issue into something adversarial. Since you must be under the impression they live in paradise and don't create issues of adversity.

    Yes, and I asked you, what would that be?

    It doesn't matter what the issue would be.....the issue is when China makes something adversarial. Then your so called response. As the Utopian theory doesn't play out with reality.

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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Obama


    Selling your soul to the devil comes to mind.
    No deals on limiting Nukes, as the US has with Russia.
    Thoughts are?
    My thoughts are that if we are going to do this then we should charge no less than 6X the amount of money it took to make whatever we were selling.
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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    NBC’s owner General Electric designed, manufactured or supplied parts or maintenance for nearly every major weapon system used by the U.S. during the Gulf War—including the Patriot and Tomahawk Cruise missiles, the Stealth bomber, the B-52 bomber, the AWACS plane, and the NAVSTAR spy satellite system. “In other words,” we wrote in Unreliable Sources, “when correspondents and paid consultants on NBC television praised the performance of U.S. weapons, they were extolling equipment made by GE, the corporation that pays their salaries.”

    The Military-Industrial-Media Complex
    Years ago, GE had a very popular site at Disney in Florida called "The world of tomorrow," where you rode in a car on a track that showed people what their vision of the future looked like. I don't know if it's still there, but I was so impressed that I wrote a letter to Jack Welch, CEO of GE at that time, praising him for having one of the best sites at Disney. Everything was being done by robots - large scale farming; construction; etc. Not one damn thing was shown about war and weaponry and innovative ways to kill people! What has happened to our world, Monte? Why the bloodlust and hate we see everywhere today? Will we be portrayed in future history books as being the root cause of most of it because of our meddling? Makes me wonder what kind of world is being created for the children and grandchildren all over the world! Sad...

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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Born Free.

    According to the IMF, China officially became the world's largest economy on December 5, 2014. Stay tuned for further news on what this might mean for the US.....
    Perhaps in PPP, which doesn't mean **** since China's GDP per capita is still comparable to that of an African nation.
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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Perhaps in PPP, which doesn't mean **** since China's GDP per capita is still comparable to that of an African nation.
    Not quite. China, on a per capita basis, is way more prosperous than almost all African countries.

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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    China is the only strategic threat to the US.
    Why sell technology that will come back to bite you in the ass.
    It is ffn stupid.


    Weapons Tech, Space tech, Nuke tech.....we shouldn't be sharing it with anybody.

    Time to drop the mantra of......can't we all get along. That left leaning failed concept. Move to the reality check, and face the facts. Some don't ever want to get along.

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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Years ago, GE had a very popular site at Disney in Florida called "The world of tomorrow," where you rode in a car on a track that showed people what their vision of the future looked like. I don't know if it's still there, but I was so impressed that I wrote a letter to Jack Welch, CEO of GE at that time, praising him for having one of the best sites at Disney. Everything was being done by robots - large scale farming; construction; etc. Not one damn thing was shown about war and weaponry and innovative ways to kill people! What has happened to our world, Monte? Why the bloodlust and hate we see everywhere today? Will we be portrayed in future history books as being the root cause of most of it because of our meddling? Makes me wonder what kind of world is being created for the children and grandchildren all over the world! Sad...
    Sad...and ugly too. But thus was it ever so, I suppose. Human nature doesn't seem to change.

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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Nothing, but today's friend may be your next adversary. And I'm not calling China a friend. Thus the constitution requires a defense from any adversary no matter the conditions at the moment and to provide for the safety of it's people. Thus a strong military, that has proven to be necessary. Do you not agree?.

    The snake strikes when you least expect it.
    China will not attack its number one costumer. Both nations would lose terribly in the end and China would not win over us (whether they deal a lot of damage or not earns nothing).
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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Not quite. China, on a per capita basis, is way more prosperous than almost all African countries.
    Hyperbole, start learning how to read a little more figuratively.

    Now compare China's PER capita to ours or Britain or Germany.
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    Re: Obama’s quiet nuclear deal with China raises proliferation concerns

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    It doesn't matter what the issue would be.....the issue is when China makes something adversarial. Then your so called response. As the Utopian theory doesn't play out with reality.
    I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to make China an adversary on your hypotheticals. USFP is the adversarial component that is driving Russia and China closer together, which many experts in foreign policy consider dangerous for global security. Or do you support Obama's foreign policy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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