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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Did you expect them to? Esp. at first? How many men marched with the suffergettes in the US?

    The group is demanding their 'rights', bringing visibility where none existed before (I dont think). It has to start somewhere. With the govt not arresting or beating people and allowing it to progress..that sends a message to all Cubans. (And the Castro regime knows that, IMO)
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Did you expect them to? Esp. at first? How many men marched with the suffergettes in the US?
    Quite a few actually. Same with the movement in Britain.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Quite a few actually. Same with the movement in Britain.
    Good to hear. When I saw pics of marches in text books, media and on PBS, I only saw women being hosed, having vegetables thrown at them, being dragged away by police, and holding signs.

    Since males controlled the papers and pretty much all businesses at the time, of course some men were supporting the women in some way.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What about all the people that agree with him that are not gay? And have not experienced it 'personally?' The thread has many, and so do the other threads on SSM. Loads.
    There appears to be a point there. But that is again not relevant to the statement. I was only pointing out, what someone here had said and what it implied. I cannot tell, if he is right Not knowing the fellow. But it could explain, why he is incapable of separating the issues and looking at them unmingled.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    There appears to be a point there. But that is again not relevant to the statement. I was only pointing out, what someone here had said and what it implied. I cannot tell, if he is right Not knowing the fellow. But it could explain, why he is incapable of separating the issues and looking at them unmingled.
    His views are similar to and exactly the same as (depending on the other posters) other people posting on this topic on this forum. So why just dismiss his due to 'personal experience' what that does not apply to the non-gay posters?
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good to hear. When I saw pics of marches in text books, media and on PBS, I only saw women being hosed, having vegetables thrown at them, being dragged away by police, and holding signs.

    Since males controlled the papers and pretty much all businesses at the time, of course some men were supporting the women in some way.
    Lot of early support from men. Generally abolitionists. Lot of married abolitionist couples in the movement.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    His views are similar to and exactly the same as (depending on the other posters) other people posting on this topic on this forum. So why just dismiss his due to 'personal experience' what that does not apply to the non-gay posters?
    As i just pointed out, you are yapping up the wrong tree. First of all, it was not my explanation and secondly it wasn't the topic but the lacking capability of differentiation that was of concern at that point.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    As i just pointed out, you are yapping up the wrong tree. First of all, it was not my explanation and secondly it wasn't the topic but the lacking capability of differentiation that was of concern at that point.
    Ah, so you just didnt think thru your unsustainable accusation to him.

    Good enough, thanks.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Ah, so you just didnt think thru your unsustainable accusation to him.

    Good enough, thanks.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, non democracies tend not to even have constitutions or supreme courts to interpret them.
    China has a constitution.

    All a constitution is is a government-limiter. It has NOTHING to directly do with democracy.
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