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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Beat my own home country? I didn't realize this was a competition.
    Yes, my rhetoric carried me a bit far with that post. On reflection, I regret its tone. Sorry about that.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why does that matter?
    Just responding to someone who said that gays were a significant part of the population. I've heard as low as 3% and as high as 10, depending on whose spinning the bull. So I don't know how significant they are numerically.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Just responding to someone who said that gays were a significant part of the population. I've heard as low as 3% and as high as 10, depending on whose spinning the bull. So I don't know how significant they are numerically.
    Split the difference, let's say 6.5% of the population.

    Asian-Americans = 4.8%
    Jewish-Americans = 2.6%
    Southern Baptists = 5.5%

    Are none of those significant parts of the population either?
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    There seems to be great headway being made in Cuba by LGBT rights activists in promoting equal treatment for the country's long-oppressed sexual minorities. The indefatigable activism of some very brave people, plus a welcome softening and modernising approach from the régime seems to be allowing a lot of progress to happen in a very short time. I wonder whether the great Satan of human rights abusers will pass SSM into nationwide law before the home of the free does.

    Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal


    How embarrassed would you be if Cuba beat your own home country in its much improved treatment of a significant demographic minority?
    I wouldn't be embarrassed at all.

    If the Supreme Court deemed that marriage was not a right and was a state issue for states to figure out themselves then that would be in line with the constitution, which is the legal God of America.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Decisions that rectify injustice and discrimination should be welcomed wherever they occur. If your May 22nd referendum rejects gay marriage, am I to congratulate Ireland on its democratic process? What comfort is it to oppressed minorities to learn that at least the discrimination being heaped on them is democratically arrived at?
    Interpretation of the constitution has nothing to do with democracy.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Interpretation of the constitution has nothing to do with democracy.

    Oh I love it when Europeans think they know America better than Americans!
    Yes it does, unless you consider the Supreme Court un democratic.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes it does, unless you consider the Supreme Court un democratic.
    The justices review it. Not the people nor their representatives, only the justices.

    The people can make arguments through a lawyer perhaps, but that's very loose democracy. Hella it ain't democracy at all now that I think about it. The ultimate interpreter is SCOTUS and no one else, not necessarily democratic in and of itself. I'll be happy to reword myself should I need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    The justices review it. Not the people nor their representatives, only the justices.

    The people can make arguments through a lawyer perhaps, but that's very loose democracy.
    They "interpret" it!!!!!!

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They "interpret" it!!!!!!

    "EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW"-These words, written above the main entrance to the Supreme Court Building, express the ultimate responsibility of the Supreme Court of the United States. The Court is the highest tribunal in the Nation for all cases and controversies arising under the Constitution or the laws of the United States. As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution.

    The Court and Constitutional Interpretation - Supreme Court of the United States
    What does that have to do with democracy?

    The court interprets the constitution as is. Many times in the past the court has ruled against what people would call "democratic" such as in the case regarding segregation or even the toleration of slavery since nothing in the constitution forbade it back then.

    What would you do if the court rules that SSM is not a right and is a state issue?
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Phew! Thank goodness Che isnt still there and Fidel is an old old man. In their prime, those guys would have all been made to go bye bye.

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