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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    I don't really have much respect for dictatorships who get something right once in a while. The USA has strong democratic principles based on a respected constitution and is a federation of hundreds of million of people. I am not at all surprised the process is longer, and I'm thankful decisions like this don't come down by decree from the "elite".

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I don't think it is that simple and almost certainly misses the conundrum.
    It is that simple. The right-wing has set back human rights in the United States and allowed a large part of the civilized world to pass us by. We are no longer the "free-est" country in the world. Other countries have become the "land of the free" and have left us behind. We will hopefully catch up one day.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    In whose opinion? Not to an old homophobe, perhaps.
    I am sure that that is, what you would like to believe.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I am sure that that is, what you would like to believe.
    Your posting history gives you away I'm afraid, JoG.
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It is that simple. The right-wing has set back human rights in the United States and allowed a large part of the civilized world to pass us by. We are no longer the "free-est" country in the world. Other countries have become the "land of the free" and have left us behind. We will hopefully catch up one day.
    I have lived in a number of the countries you propbably mean and don't let the propaganda fool you.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I don't really have much respect for dictatorships who get something right once in a while. The USA has strong democratic principles based on a respected constitution and is a federation of hundreds of million of people. I am not at all surprised the process is longer, and I'm thankful decisions like this don't come down by decree from the "elite".
    Decisions that rectify injustice and discrimination should be welcomed wherever they occur. If your May 22nd referendum rejects gay marriage, am I to congratulate Ireland on its democratic process? What comfort is it to oppressed minorities to learn that at least the discrimination being heaped on them is democratically arrived at?
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Your posting history gives you away I'm afraid, JoG.
    Only in your dreams do my posts constitute homophobia, though, I did not really enjoy homosexual or bisexual sex. But I do understand that people would rather simplify than try to understand, what is actually being said. This is all the more the case, when they realize their arguments are rather threadbare.

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I sincerely hope so, although there does seem to be a very strong current of opinion amongst large swathes of your population that seems either happy to see your human rights record deteriorate, or are in complete denial that any such thing is taking place. I'm not sure what it would take to see the situation turned around.
    Irrespective of the gay rights issue it is surely the ultimate conundrum that the so called land of the free is in actuality the land of the incarcerated. Apparently only the tiny Seychelles is worse

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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Only in your dreams do my posts constitute homophobia, though, I did not really enjoy homosexual or bisexual sex. But I do understand that people would rather simplify than try to understand, what is actually being said. This is all the more the case, when they realize their arguments are rather threadbare.
    A small sample will help clarify:
    The gays have overplayed their had with revolting triumphalism and gleeful intrusions on the existential and fundamental Constitutional rights of others. That has lost them a lot of sympathy and has now pushed the whole discussion in a more encompassing light that shows the gay arguments to be threadbare and at best barely tenable if at all.
    What ssm does affect is your wallet. Were you of such a religion, it would also make you an accessory in the condemning activities of the sinfully consenting adults.
    Telling a child that single parents exist is quite different from telling them that it is a good way to go.
    Teaching them that it is ethically okay is not the same thing, as it is contrary to central religious morals. That would be fine in a private institution. For the government to do so against the will of the parents is as unconstitutional as saying it is crime against God and perpetrators should burn for infinity.
    Are Muslim gays as much offensively demanding and triumphalist as our SSM lobbyists?
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    Re: Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    A small sample will help clarify:
    And, if you were to read, what those quotes say, you would find that it is not homosexuality I criticize. But that might be too demanding of you as isit equines more than one dimensional thinking in a fifty years old rut.

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