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Cuba gay pride calls for same-sex marriage to become legal

What have you heard concrete from the US govt re: federally accepted SSM?

Besides that SCOTUS is finally going to examine it, period.

We are talking about Cuba, and they could give a **** what we say.
 
We are talking about Cuba, and they could give a **** what we say.

I dont think that's true. It's to their benefit in general to have more open relations with us, period.
 
First sentence, or just about, in article:

"The event was organised by President Raul Castro's daughter, Mariela Castro."

Sure, but did common Cubans participate?
 
Sure, but did common Cubans participate?

Did you expect them to? Esp. at first? How many men marched with the suffergettes in the US?

The group is demanding their 'rights', bringing visibility where none existed before (I dont think). It has to start somewhere. With the govt not arresting or beating people and allowing it to progress..that sends a message to all Cubans. (And the Castro regime knows that, IMO)
 
Did you expect them to? Esp. at first? How many men marched with the suffergettes in the US?

The group is demanding their 'rights', bringing visibility where none existed before (I dont think). It has to start somewhere. With the govt not arresting or beating people and allowing it to progress..that sends a message to all Cubans. (And the Castro regime knows that, IMO)

Absolutely. We agree
 
Did you expect them to? Esp. at first? How many men marched with the suffergettes in the US?

Quite a few actually. Same with the movement in Britain.
 
Quite a few actually. Same with the movement in Britain.

Good to hear. When I saw pics of marches in text books, media and on PBS, I only saw women being hosed, having vegetables thrown at them, being dragged away by police, and holding signs.

Since males controlled the papers and pretty much all businesses at the time, of course some men were supporting the women in some way.
 
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What about all the people that agree with him that are not gay? And have not experienced it 'personally?' The thread has many, and so do the other threads on SSM. Loads.

There appears to be a point there. But that is again not relevant to the statement. I was only pointing out, what someone here had said and what it implied. I cannot tell, if he is right Not knowing the fellow. But it could explain, why he is incapable of separating the issues and looking at them unmingled.
 
There appears to be a point there. But that is again not relevant to the statement. I was only pointing out, what someone here had said and what it implied. I cannot tell, if he is right Not knowing the fellow. But it could explain, why he is incapable of separating the issues and looking at them unmingled.

His views are similar to and exactly the same as (depending on the other posters) other people posting on this topic on this forum. So why just dismiss his due to 'personal experience' what that does not apply to the non-gay posters?
 
Good to hear. When I saw pics of marches in text books, media and on PBS, I only saw women being hosed, having vegetables thrown at them, being dragged away by police, and holding signs.

Since males controlled the papers and pretty much all businesses at the time, of course some men were supporting the women in some way.

Lot of early support from men. Generally abolitionists. Lot of married abolitionist couples in the movement.
 
His views are similar to and exactly the same as (depending on the other posters) other people posting on this topic on this forum. So why just dismiss his due to 'personal experience' what that does not apply to the non-gay posters?

As i just pointed out, you are yapping up the wrong tree. First of all, it was not my explanation and secondly it wasn't the topic but the lacking capability of differentiation that was of concern at that point.
 
As i just pointed out, you are yapping up the wrong tree. First of all, it was not my explanation and secondly it wasn't the topic but the lacking capability of differentiation that was of concern at that point.

Ah, so you just didnt think thru your unsustainable accusation to him.

Good enough, thanks.
 
Ah, so you just didnt think thru your unsustainable accusation to him.

Good enough, thanks.

As i tried to get through your skull, it wasn't I that insinuated the trauma hypothesis. But as always you cannot control your idee fixe. Rather a nuisance, you know?
 
Well, non democracies tend not to even have constitutions or supreme courts to interpret them.

China has a constitution.

All a constitution is is a government-limiter. It has NOTHING to directly do with democracy.
 
As i tried to get through your skull, it wasn't I that insinuated the trauma hypothesis. But as always you cannot control your idee fixe. Rather a nuisance, you know?

Dont get defensive, just accept that you were unable to sustain your accusation and move on.
 
I like the fact that the protesters were not abused and were allowed to protest.

If the Castro regime is gradually loosening its hold, as seems the intent here, I would encourage it in the little time it has left.

That's a good sign sure. But in the end, rauls daughter is their political advocate. It's more the family loosening up than true democratisation. But hey, maybe this is signifying the coming of more egalitarian ideals.
 
I like that term "gay pride". That is about as silly as being "proud" of being hetero or White.

It's about being an oppressed minority and standing up to those who would belittle you. No need for me as a hetero to be proud, but I can understand gay pride. No need for me to be proud of being white in Europe, but I could understand the need for it in Mugabe's Zimbabwe for example, just as I understand black pride in the US and Europe. D'oh!
 
It's about being an oppressed minority and standing up to those who would belittle you. No need for me as a hetero to be proud, but I can understand gay pride. No need for me to be proud of being white in Europe, but I could understand the need for it in Mugabe's Zimbabwe for example, just as I understand black pride in the US and Europe. D'oh!

It sounds like a feel good thing about being different and belonging.
 
It sounds like a feel good thing about being different and belonging.

Nothing wrong with that when you face bigotry, ignorance and discrimination every day. It is also a political statement, a tool of empowerment and many many other things.
 
Nothing wrong with that when you face bigotry, ignorance and discrimination every day. It is also a political statement, a tool of empowerment and many many other things.

That does not make it less silly, as statements go. It seems rather juvenile to be kind.
 
The problem with 'the home of the free' is that it has a very high percentage of religious people, way more then almost any other western country.

And religious types are notorious for being way behind the curve on things like SSM and LGBT rights...and several other things as well.

But, fortunately, religion is dying in the west and eventually it will diminish in America and she can join much of the rest of the civilized world on several issues...SSM and LGBT rights for a start.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2002/12/19/among-wealthy-nations/
 
That does not make it less silly, as statements go. It seems rather juvenile to be kind.

"Silly" :roll:
You've evidently never faced prejudice. Don't tell me that actually, you're a handicapped black lesbian muslim because I won't believe you.
 
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