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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    The Conservative party in the UK has a position roughly akin to the mainstream or right of mainstream in the Democrat party. The libdems are slightly to the left opf that and Labour is where Move on org is.

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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Looks like supporting same-sex marriage doesn't harm conservative candidates after all. Take note US conservatives, it is time to change your tune.
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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    From The New York Times:

    ...Mr. Miliband’s campaign was also a challenge — and a rebuff — to the “New Labour” strategy of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, who won three elections by downplaying socialism, reaching for the center and convincing business that Labour was its friend...

    The problem was not Mr. Miliband’s personality but policy, “the issue of aspiration in people’s lives,” Mr. Johnson said. “We can no longer relate to them as a party of aspiration. And that was one of the big successes that won us three elections.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/wo...n-britain.html

    In elections, candidates and parties need to advocate positions and policies that are reasonably consistent with the electorate's needs and desires. This assessment suggests that Labor had lurched to a vision that was inconsistent with the British electorate's needs and desires. It is unclear why the Party would have abandoned the more successful centrist path it had previously taken, especially when the British economy was in the midst of a continuing expansion.

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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Such a "lurch" or even incompatibility with the British electorate fails to explain their all but total wipeout in Scotland, by a SNP who cleverly assumed the leftist positions abandoned by Blairism.
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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Such a "lurch" or even incompatibility with the British electorate fails to explain their all but total wipeout in Scotland, by a SNP who cleverly assumed the leftist positions abandoned by Blairism.
    Scotland was its own distinct phenomenon. It will be interesting to see what changes the various parties make in the wake of the election.

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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Scotland is effectively a democratic one party state. There are only three of 59 MP's who are not SNP.
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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Scotland is effectively a democratic one party state. There are only three of 59 MP's who are not SNP.
    Considering the last several years of politics in or about Scotland, that is not surprising to see a sort of political unification under mostly one banner.
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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Fantastic to see the UK go strongly conservative at such a critical time in their great collective histories.
    Oh dear. Although a British conservative isn't quite what an American conservative is. David Cameron considers Gaza a prison camp, he cut defense spending, he's for national healthcare, and a host of other goodies anathema to the American conservative, lol.

    And he even considers himself a liberal conservative. No self respecting American conservative would ever allow the word liberal to be part of a title with which he describes himself.

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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Fantastic to see the UK go strongly conservative at such a critical time in their great collective histories.

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    the conservatives dominated

    'nuff said
    Actually, its not enough said. If you are looking for an intelligent review, you need to understand that a British Conservative aligns closer to a US Democrat than a US Republican...

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    Re: Just in case you missed it there was a UK election yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Actually, its not enough said. If you are looking for an intelligent review, you need to understand that a British Conservative aligns closer to a US Democrat than a US Republican...

    How Conservative Would British Conservatives Be in the U.S.? - The Wire
    To be fair, the only conservative parties that are some what similar to the American conservatives are probably Iran and Saudi Arabia and the Vatican... everyone else are far more like the British conservatives and the Democratic party.
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