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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to have a problem with actual numbers and always want to apply stipulations to them. Not sure exactly what your problem is but regardless the numbers beat the hell out of Obama's and led to winning re-election with 49 states. Seems that the people then and the electorate today disagree with you.
    There you go again, equating popularity and myth-making to economic reality. I am not so deeply embedded or invested with Obama as you are with Raygun, I hate that he did not spend and invest in either real terms or as a percent of the economy as Raygun, I hate that he is pushing neoliberal trade policy, I hate that he continued the bailout of the banks and did next to nothing for home owners in distress, but I hate even more the absolute dishonesty of you and your ilks rhetoric about this admin and the glorification of St.Ronnie's. He was an Alzheimer victim for not all, most of his terms, he was totally dependent upon his cabinet to put together any sort of budget and was beholden to advisers like Greenspan when doubling payroll taxes while simultaneously cutting top marginal rates more than half....as spending went through the roof. It was all pure voodoo, totally insane.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And there probably would have been, if it weren't for the Great Bush Recession in between then and now. Maybe you didn't notice.
    7 years in and you people are still blaming Bush ?

    How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you parrot nonsense like that ?

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    "U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008"

    ....and the labor participation rate is the lowest since the great depression. Take your pick.
    Yea those damn baby boomers just won't die. Bastards.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    7 years in and you people are still blaming Bush ?

    How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you parrot nonsense like that ?
    How does time passing change history? Bush will always be to blame for the 2008 Great Recession. No matter how many years pass and even when we are all dead, the history books will tell the same sad story. In 2008 the Republicans crashed our economy worse than any recession since the 1930's and Bush was at the helm. Embrace it.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    7 years in and you people are still blaming Bush ?

    How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you parrot nonsense like that ?
    3 years posting, and you are still ignoring context?

    How on Earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you act so nonsensically?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    There you go again, equating popularity and myth-making to economic reality. I am not so deeply embedded or invested with Obama as you are with Raygun, I hate that he did not spend and invest in either real terms or as a percent of the economy as Raygun, I hate that he is pushing neoliberal trade policy, I hate that he continued the bailout of the banks and did next to nothing for home owners in distress, but I hate even more the absolute dishonesty of you and your ilks rhetoric about this admin and the glorification of St.Ronnie's. He was an Alzheimer victim for not all, most of his terms, he was totally dependent upon his cabinet to put together any sort of budget and was beholden to advisers like Greenspan when doubling payroll taxes while simultaneously cutting top marginal rates more than half....as spending went through the roof. It was all pure voodoo, totally insane.
    Yea he cut taxes and revenue INCREASED shortly thereafter. Its a paradox, I know...I wish liberals could understand that.

    Ive always wondered why liberals support the government confiscating the peoples money. Is it because of that "fair share" bull****? Hasnt anyone noticed that liberals will NEVER say what FAIR SHARE actually means? They will never put a number on it....probably because they want ALL of it.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    many of the jobs created are … part time work
    Part-time for economic reasons:

    Dec 2009 — 9.1 million
    Apr 2015 — 6.6 million

    Employed full-time:

    Dec 2009 — 110.6 million
    Apr 2015 — 120.8 million

    I don't pretend to know a whole lot about this stuff. I'm more than convinced that no one I've come across around here does. pinqy comes the closest. But you sure do seem t' think that you do. I can assure you that you don't.

    On the issue of popularity: "Obama equals Ronald Reagan popularity as economy, gas prices boost job approval," Washington Times, Apr 26, 2015

    Reading the comments on this page:

    "Is Forbes magazine correct when they say that President Obama outperforms President Reagan on jobs, growth and investing?," Quora, Sept 17, 2014

    … I'm reminded that I don't want to get involved in a back-and-forth with partisans and ideologues. The people who have a balanced perspective, who realize that there's only so much you can do as president to affect these things (and that has been noted around here by some), who realize that you run into serious limitations when comparing administrations that are nearly thirty years apart in a world economy that changes so much so rapidly, are probably the ones who have the clearest understanding of all these numbers. I'd like to see the discussions at DP move more in that direction. Otherwise, it's all just sort of DoPey.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Speaking of Jack, I wonder how we would have gone at Ike's U-3 numbers.

    unemp_1950_1959.jpg

    It doesn't look like handouts are gonna be the issue. Well, it will be for some, of course.

    fed_welfare_perc_GDP_1999_2019.jpg

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Yea he cut taxes and revenue INCREASED shortly thereafter. Its a paradox, I know...I wish liberals could understand that.

    Ive always wondered why liberals support the government confiscating the peoples money. Is it because of that "fair share" bull****? Hasnt anyone noticed that liberals will NEVER say what FAIR SHARE actually means? They will never put a number on it....probably because they want ALL of it.
    The revenue increase that followed the tax cuts was smaller in proportion to the previous eight and the eight years following (Clinton's term actually) Revenue as a percentage of GDP also declined and resided below either of the bookend administrations. There's simply no credible measure that would suggest revenues were greater than they would have been had the tax brackets remained the same
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