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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Again....you can't accept the truth so you distort. Sorry Charlie....but Texas is tied with Mississippi for having the highest proportion of its citizens working for minimum wage. Must make you real proud!!
    That is a lie and no matter how many times you state it, it doesn't make it true. Even with Federal Minimum wage that isn't true, Texas has the highest total but not the highest proportion by a long shot. Better worry about your own state with 1.6 million minimum wage workers and leading the nation in poverty.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I can play this game...

    No, some that never progress and get stuck in the conservative phase like to think that of others because it excuses their own lack of growth.

    See that?

    The point was, you assumed con had been liberal, he never was liberal.
    No, you obviously can't play this game, at least not very well. It is accepted fact that humans in general go from liberal to conservative as they mature. Not the other way around.

    So yes, it is more likely that as a young man Conservative was far more liberal.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    To add, if "progress" is having a lower IQ, being more fearful, tending towards higher rates of prejudice, more prone to authoritarianism, well that is something I do not want to grow towards.


    The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.
    Wow, sounds like I really hit the nail on the head with you and you're throwing everything at it. What's next, "Nah, Nah, can't hear you"?

    Don't worry, you've got company, not everyone progress to adulthood.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Look, you and I are never going to agree. I will put my resume up against yours any day of the week but that is irrelevant. You are a liberal and refuse to acknowledge you are part of the problem not part of the solution. I see no further reason to continue posting the same data and information over and over again only to be ignored.
    I never ignore real data, and I don't keep trying to pass off some ever changing story about my past ideology. You do. Today it's "I was always a conservative", but 3 years ago it was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, actually I didn't, I was a liberal back then ....
    so your history is whatever you want it to be, you can't keep a your story straight nor can you keep your arguments on point....but then that is what you are consistent with, being inconsistent.
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    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
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    Wrong anyone employed is counted in the u3
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    If the goal was for the creation of larger numbers of higher paying WAGE employment........why do you insist on going in circles? I'm not arguing for greater concentrations of wealth in fewer hands, you are, by your own admission. Again, you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth, contradicting yourself. You don't lament the large numbers of low wage jobs, you want it by arguing for wealthier owners.

    Further, the poor cannot create jobs, since they are capital poor....durr.
    No I said I want MORE rich people. More means more. More doesnt mean fewer. Dur.

    And as for your "Poor cannot create jobs" argument...sorry but that is just plain false. One of my best friends went from being poor to owning a company that continues to expand every year....she profits over $300k a year. In the not-so-distant future she will be profiting over a million a year. I guess you should talk to the people she employs if they have jobs or not.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, sounds like I really hit the nail on the head with you and you're throwing everything at it. What's next, "Nah, Nah, can't hear you"?

    Don't worry, you've got company, not everyone progress to adulthood.
    First it was "progressing" (LOL!!) toward conservatism, now it is "adulthood=conservatism" while you childishly try to put words in my mouth (irony!). Growth is learning to accept difference, to live with it, not to close it off, to pull away from, to become more dogmatic and traditional.
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    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
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    Wrong anyone employed is counted in the u3
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Reagan's last budget was a trillion dollars and took GDP from 2.8 trillion to 5.6 trillion.
    GDP (in nominal dollars) was $2.8 trillion in 1980. Reagan became president in Jan 1981. In that year, it was $3.2 trillion.

    In 1989, it was $5.6 trillion. Bush41 became president in January of that year.

    The Reagan numbers go from $3.2 trillion in 1981 to $5.25 trillion in 1988. So not "from 2.8 trillion to 5.6 trillion," but rather from 3.2 to 5.25. Funny how ya got that wrong.

    Unlike every macroeconomist in the world, you think inflation should be ignored. Nevertheless, I think it should be accounted for. When you look at real per capita GDP growth, Reagan's economy grew at 2.6% annually, while Obama's has grown at 2.1%.

    The growth under Reagan resulted in large part from the trillions of (inflation-adjusted) dollars that were contained in federal deficits. Now Obama has had large deficits as well. But most of that money came from wars he didn't start and big tax cuts for the wealthy that he opposes. Moreover, yer not gonna get the same recovery form a financial crisis that you would from a business cycle recession.

    The numbers just aren't there to validate yer claim that the Reagan economy was stronger than the one we've had under Obama.

    >>You think Obama is a deficit hawk proposing a 3.9 trillion dollar budget?

    Federal expenditures in FY2014 were $3.5 trillion. Spending has fallen under Obama. The FY2009 budget was almost all Bush's doing. The spending that Obama added was required to avoid a complete collapse of the economy. We'll see what the total for FY2015 ends up being. I know what you want cut all those handouts to the black trash that are rioting in our streets.

    >>BLS, BEA, and Treasury make you look foolish

    How's that?

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    No I said I want MORE rich people. More means more. More doesnt mean fewer. Dur.
    You don't get "more" rich people with more SB employment, you get more low wage employment.

    And as for your "Poor cannot create jobs" argument...sorry but that is just plain false. One of my best friends went from being poor to owning a company that continues to expand every year....she profits over $300k a year. In the not-so-distant future she will be profiting over a million a year. I guess you should talk to the people she employs if they have jobs or not.
    Um, your anecdotal "friend" did not go to bed poor and wake up the next day "rich" without some level of capitalization in between. And I REALLY hope you are not going to go off on some distraction from your original point (which you keep getting further and further from) with an argument about upward mobility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumpf
    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
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    Wrong anyone employed is counted in the u3
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, you obviously can't play this game, at least not very well. It is accepted fact that humans in general go from liberal to conservative as they mature. Not the other way around.

    So yes, it is more likely that as a young man Conservative was far more liberal.
    He has no idea what he was, his story is ever changing. People might become more careful economically as they age (fear of losing wealth), but socially, folks who become more fearful socially are not "progressing". they are in fact regressing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumpf
    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
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    Wrong anyone employed is counted in the u3
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    GDP (in nominal dollars) was $2.8 trillion in 1980. Reagan became president in Jan 1981. In that year, it was $3.2 trillion.

    In 1989, it was $5.6 trillion. Bush41 became president in January of that year.

    The Reagan numbers go from $3.2 trillion in 1981 to $5.25 trillion in 1988. So not "from 2.8 trillion to 5.6 trillion," but rather from 3.2 to 5.25. Funny how ya got that wrong.

    Unlike every macroeconomist in the world, you think inflation should be ignored. Nevertheless, I think it should be accounted for. When you look at real per capita GDP growth, Reagan's economy grew at 2.6% annually, while Obama's has grown at 2.1%.

    The growth under Reagan resulted in large part from the trillions of (inflation-adjusted) dollars that were contained in federal deficits. Now Obama has had large deficits as well. But most of that money came from wars he didn't start and big tax cuts for the wealthy that he opposes. Moreover, yer not gonna get the same recovery form a financial crisis that you would from a business cycle recession.

    The numbers just aren't there to validate yer claim that the Reagan economy was stronger than the one we've had under Obama.

    >>You think Obama is a deficit hawk proposing a 3.9 trillion dollar budget?

    Federal expenditures in FY2014 were $3.5 trillion. Spending has fallen under Obama. The FY2009 budget was almost all Bush's doing. The spending that Obama added was required to avoid a complete collapse of the economy. We'll see what the total for FY2015 ends up being. I know what you want cut — all those handouts to the black trash that are rioting in our streets.

    >>BLS, BEA, and Treasury make you look foolish

    How's that?
    There you go again unable to figure out what nominal even means and the period covered, the 2.8 trillion was the economy at the end of 1980. The economy at the end of 1988 was 5.2 trillion. those are the numbers that mattered because both revenue and expenses were in those year values.

    Trillions? Really? the entire economy was less than 3 trillion when he took office and the budget wasn't even a trillion dollars. Please research the Reagan stimulus and tell me how much spending was in that stimulus??
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    Then please learn how to use the quote function

    Oh, by the way since you claim all the 2009 deficit was Bush's please tell me how he did that from October 2008 to January 21, 2009 and then show me the Bush signed 2009 budget?

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