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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
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    that is your opinion, a recession began in March 2001 long before Bush economic policies were implemented...
    And yet you blame the record 2009 fiscal year deficit, which started not only before most of Obummers policies were implemented, but before he even was elected, on Obummer. You don't see how that is hypocritical?
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    imagep;1064626270]How many more jobs were they when Bush left office than when he took office? We have gained more jobs in the past six months under Obummer, than under all 8 years of Bush. For that matter, we have gained more jobs in the past two years of Obummer, than under all three Bush terms.

    About 6 million with most of the losses occurring in 2008. When Obama took office there were 142 million working Americans, when the
    recession began there were 146 million. That number today is 147 million. I don't call that great economic performance. Why do you

    And yes, after 7 years of Bush, we were in our second recession, both which started on Bush's watch. Blame it on whoever you like, since you can't handle the truth.
    Waiting for the economic policies of Bush that created the March 2001 recession??

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And yet you blame the record 2008 fiscal year deficit, which started not only before most of Obummers policies were implemented, but before he even was elected, on Obummer. You don't see how that is hypocritical?
    No, I don't I blame the 2008 deficit on Bush, the problem is you don't even know when the 2008 deficit was created. Bush left office with 10.6 trillion debt, an unsigned 2009 budget that Obama signed knowing quite well that people like you would blame Bush for that deficit. Amazing how Bush created the 2009 deficit from October 1, 2008 to January 21, 2009. Got it, all the expenses but none of the revenue? Stimulus, Afghanistan supplemental, GM/Chrysler takeover, recycling of TARP repayment all under Obama and all ignored and blamed on Bush.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

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    About 6 million with most of the losses occurring in 2008. When Obama took office there were 142 million working Americans, when the
    recession began there were 146 million. That number today is 147 million. I don't call that great economic performance. Why do you
    Because not only has Obummer recovered from all the jobs lost during Bush's last year, but also from the entire Great Bush Recession, AND THEN SOME.

    But since you prefer to ignore Bush's recession job losses, let's just start counting the Obummer job gains from employment bottomed out.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And yet you blame the record 2008 fiscal year deficit,
    which started not only before most of Obummers policies were implemented, but before he even was elected, on Obummer.
    It's similar to McConnell taking credit for the largest job growth in 15 years, during 2014, before the GOP took over D.C.

    You don't see how that is hypocritical?
    For every Gruber, there are a dozen Cheney's telling us that "deficits don't matter", as per Reagan.

    Though his questioning when 'each and every deficit actually began', so as to blame DEMs in every one of his posts, is a new rewrite of history on me.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Not to mention the tax revenue lost from those Bush job losses.
    Surely those job losses didn't make deficits worse .

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Because not only has Obummer recovered from all the jobs lost during Bush's last year, but also from the entire Great Bush Recession, AND THEN SOME.

    But since you prefer to ignore Bush's recession job losses, let's just start counting the Obummer job gains from employment bottomed out.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Because not only has Obummer recovered from all the jobs lost during Bush's last year, but also from the entire Great Bush Recession, AND THEN SOME.

    But since you prefer to ignore Bush's recession job losses, let's just start counting the Obummer job gains from employment bottomed out.
    It took him 7 years to get back to the level of the recession at a cost of 8.2 trillion to the debt. Today there are still 17 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged plus marginally attached which of course doesn't resonate to you. What bothers me are the high numbers of discouraged, the huge number of part time employees. Seems the electorate got it this last election, when will you?

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Not to mention the tax revenue lost from those Bush job losses.
    Surely those job losses didn't make deficits worse .
    Thought the stimulus was for shovel ready jobs to create new taxpayers. Ooops didn't happen, did it but then again you bought another Obama lie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    What is it about people like you that continues to buy the Obama rhetoric and believing in the Obama lies?

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It's similar to McConnell taking credit for the largest job growth in 15 years, during 2014, before the GOP took over D.C.



    For every Gruber, there are a dozen Cheney's telling us that "deficits don't matter", as per Reagan.

    Though his questioning when 'each and every deficit actually began', so as to blame DEMs in every one of his posts, is a new rewrite of history on me.
    Keep patting yourselves on the back for the Obama performance and enjoy the GOP takeover of Congress. Guess the electorate finally got it, when will you? What is it about liberalism that creates people like you, who want badly to believe what you are told but actually ignore data.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It took him 7 years to get back to the level of the recession at a cost of 8.2 trillion to the debt.
    Reagan ran up three times more debt than every president before him COMBINED. So yea, if deficit spending is stimulative, then Obama has done a piss poor job compared to Reagan.

    Today there are still 17 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged plus marginally attached which of course doesn't resonate to you.
    Why should it? How many "unemployed/under employed/discouraged plus marginally attached" were their when Obama took office? Again, just raw numbers don't mean anything, unless we have something to compare them to. If someone told me that there were 17 thousand of those people, that might would sound like a lot, unless I knew that it's typically tens of millions.

    Try this one, under Obama, the foodstamp roll grew by 14.2 million people. Sounds outragous, almost unbelievable, until we find out that it grew by 14.7 under Bush.
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