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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    mmi;1064625375]The increase in debt isn't Obama's fault. You jerks put the country into the hospital and Obama has put it back to work. Now you complain that he's responsible for the medical bills.
    That is your opinion but as with most liberals you buy the media spin. Tell me how this recession affected you and your family? Those jerks as you call them must include the Democrat controlled Congress but apparently you have a very selective memory

    No. Clinton put up big surpluses. Bush's friends gave us big deficits. Some people who call themselves conservatives can't see that.
    Really? Clinton surpluses? Can you show me the Treasury data, you know the bank account of the U.S., that shows those surpluses?

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Looks to me like he added 1.4 trillion to the debt so don't you think that a surplus would show a reduction??

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    July 2008 - January 2009 U-4 was higher than current.
    Interesting, what people like mmi do is show that liberals buy rhetoric and never verify the accuracy. I posted the discouraged worker numbers so either you got it wrong or BLS. My bet is that you got it wrong yet mmi gives you a like for posting distorted information.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    The increase in debt isn't Obama's fault. You jerks put the country into the hospital and Obama has put it back to work. Now you complain that he's responsible for the medical bills.

    >>Are liberal standards really that low?

    No. Clinton put up big surpluses. Bush's friends gave us big deficits. Some people who call themselves conservatives can't see that.
    Obama didn't put it back to work, he put it into Hospice.

    And Clinton had a GOP Congress, remember ?

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I was talking discouraged workers so apparently BLS got it wrong. Did you call them and let them know?
    The U-4 is Unemployed plus Discouraged workers as a percent of the Labor Force plus Discouraged workers.

    We have more people now than in 2008, which is why rates are used. As a percent of the labor force plus discouraged, there are fewer unemployed and discouraged now than then.



    I know this is hard for people like you to understand but here we are almost 7 years into the Obama Administration, 8.2 trillion more in debt and the discouraged number is higher than when he took office.
    But it was going up when he took office and took a while to go down. What you're doing is acting as if the fact that the number is slightly higher now means it was continuously going up, when the reality was it continued to go up but now is on the way down.
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    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting, what people like mmi do is show that liberals buy rhetoric and never verify the accuracy. I posted the discouraged worker numbers so either you got it wrong or BLS. My bet is that you got it wrong yet mmi gives you a like for posting distorted information.
    Apparently you didn't know what the U-4 was. Odd.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    The U-4 is Unemployed plus Discouraged workers as a percent of the Labor Force plus Discouraged workers.

    We have more people now than in 2008, which is why rates are used. As a percent of the labor force plus discouraged, there are fewer unemployed and discouraged now than then.




    But it was going up when he took office and took a while to go down. What you're doing is acting as if the fact that the number is slightly higher now means it was continuously going up, when the reality was it continued to go up but now is on the way down.
    Wonder why it didn't take so long when Reagan was in office nor did it take 8.2 trillion added to the debt to still have a higher number than when the recession began and when Obama took office?

    You simply buy the rhetoric and ignore the incompetence and lack of leadership. Yes, it was going up when he took office and after a 842 billion stimulus it took another two plus years for the numbers to begin dropping plus trillions added to the debt. Absolutely stunning how low your standards apparently are and how little you understand about leadership or in the case of Obama the lack of leadership

    When exactly does the debt, the high number of U-6 people, low economic growth become a concern to you

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Apparently you didn't know what the U-4 was. Odd.
    Apparently unemployed, under employed, discouraged worker numbers don't matter to you. 8.2 trillion added to the debt and still the discouraged workers are higher than when he took office and the U-6 rate 2 points higher than when the recession began. Apparently a liberal success story based upon very low standards and expectations.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder why it didn't take so long when Reagan was in office
    When exactly does the debt, the high number of U-6 people, low economic growth become a concern to you
    If the U-6 was going up, it would be a concern. It has been coming down, so it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Apparently unemployed, under employed, discouraged worker numbers don't matter to you. .
    You only mentioned discouraged, so that's what I responded to.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Apparently unemployed, under employed, discouraged worker numbers don't matter to you. 8.2 trillion added to the debt and still the discouraged workers are higher than when he took office and the U-6 rate 2 points higher than when the recession began. Apparently a liberal success story based upon very low standards and expectations.
    I like how you jump around...you use discouraged level comparing Jan 2009 to now and dismiss the U-4 rate, which was higher, but for U-6, which was 14.2% when Obama took office, you ignore that and go back to pre-recession.

    Why are you using different dates like that?
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    If the U-6 was going up, it would be a concern. It has been coming down, so it's not.



    You only mentioned discouraged, so that's what I responded to.
    The question should be why doesn't the debt and still high U-6 rate bother you? It remains in record high area after trillions spent to bring it down. When do actual results become an issue to you.

    You believe cutting the deficit in half but still in record high range is a good thing? Do you believe that cutting the U-6 rate down but still in record high range is a good thing? Seems that low standards are what motivates liberals especially those who blame Bush for everything that happened when he was in office.

    Kept hearing over and over again that when the unemployment rate was under 5% and the deficit under 400billion, and the discouraged workers under 500,000 that this was the worst economy since Hoover

    https://books.google.com/books?id=QS...Hoover&f=false

    But now the unemployment rate is higher, the discouraged workers is higher, the GDP growth lower, the debt is higher and Obama is called the savior. why the disconnect and why do good people like you continue to buy the rhetoric?

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