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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Thanks for your response. I may not agree with all or most of your views on this, but I do respect that at least you have an educated view and rationale for your support for President Obama and not just some offhanded "Obama is great" nonsense. I'm glad to hear about people prospering in today's economy.
    Well sir I appreciate your response not being an insult because I try my best to educate myself on why one politician or the other is good or bad for US and NA in general. Another thing that Obama is pushing for that I am all for (despite my union taking a neutral position on it) is the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement. Something I think could help both our countries out.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well sir I appreciate your response not being an insult because I try my best to educate myself on why one politician or the other is good or bad for US and NA in general. Another thing that Obama is pushing for that I am all for (despite my union taking a neutral position on it) is the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement. Something I think could help both our countries out.
    You're quite right. Similar to Bill Clinton and NAFTA, Obama is on the wrong side of many in the Democrat Party when it comes to the TPTA. Canada has been active in establishing trade agreements with Asian countries and the EU, knowing full well that unless we open up to all markets, we'll be left behind. It won't be great for everyone, but it will benefit the economy as a whole. And it's about time we break down a lot of the artificial barriers to our goods entering Asian markets, your autos being one sector.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The U-3 (the official 'unemployment rate') means almost nothing, imo.

    You do realize that the U-3 could theoretically be almost zero even though NO ONE is employed?
    If that was the case, then we would be living in a world where there is no scarcity because technology is taking care of most of our needs. That's the ultimate goal of humanity, being able to spend our time however we chose.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    That's the ultimate goal of humanity, being able to spend our time however we chose.
    Uh-oh. Does that mean I would spend even more time reading and posting at DP? Maybe my job isn't so bad after all.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're quite right. Similar to Bill Clinton and NAFTA, Obama is on the wrong side of many in the Democrat Party when it comes to the TPTA. Canada has been active in establishing trade agreements with Asian countries and the EU, knowing full well that unless we open up to all markets, we'll be left behind. It won't be great for everyone, but it will benefit the economy as a whole. And it's about time we break down a lot of the artificial barriers to our goods entering Asian markets, your autos being one sector.
    Yeah I can see the bad in the agreement, but the good is far better than the bad overall.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    I've really stopped looking at the unemployment numbers because any way you slice it, Pres. Obama will never get credit for any positive private sector job growth whatsoever.

    Even if one new job were created, there will be those who will find something wrong with that employment figure, i.e., it's part-time work, not full-time; it's only +1 more job than what was reported last month; it's a job in a low skilled arena not a technical job.

    There's will always be someone who will seek out the negative, never the positive...the fact that private sector job growth has continued each year since 2010. It's almost as if those who believe that "the best way to end poverty is with a job" are fighting themselves and are willing to say anything to show that President Obama had absolutely nothing to do with the positive job growth that has taken place for five straight years.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    So what job killing policies were you guys mouthing about then?
    The Canadians were "mouthing" about job killing policies?
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    "U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008"

    ....and the labor participation rate is the lowest since the great depression. Take your pick.

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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Source? Basic economics 101 dude. And yes....that would include wealthy Democrats as well.
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    re: U.S. Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since May 2008[W:489, 497]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    You know,

    I had to double check the record, but my memory was right - for the entire 8 years of the Bush presidency the GOP completely controlled both branches of government, including both the house & senate. There was majority control of both chambers for 6 out of 8 of those years, and a two year period where the house was in majority GOP control and the senate floor was evenly split - but the senate still stayed in GOP control due the the GOP VP tie-breaking vote.

    Source: Composition of Congress, by Political Party, 1855–2017

    To blame the Bush recession on a minority party seems ... a bit of ... a reach.

    So now the GOP recession is due to (as you state) their having 'a liberal mindset'?

    You gotta' be kidding!
    Huh? You say that the GOP controlled "both branches of government, including both the house & senate" for the entire 8 years of Bush 43's Presidency. Not accurate. In 2006 the Democrats won both the House and the Senate. What point were you trying to make?
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