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    Re: Another train carrying oil crashes & catches fire...this time in North Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not name calling when it's an inanimate object. You should know that. It's an adjective, descriptive of the toxicity of the product. Whether or not you like it, that barrel has a bottom.

    Think these guys are trying to hurt oils feelings too?

    The Hidden Cost of Fossil Fuels

    Fossil fuels—coal, oil, and natural gas—are America's primary source of energy, accounting for 85 percent of current US fuel use. Some of the costs of using these fuels are obvious, such as the cost of labor to mine for coal or drill for oil, of labor and materials to build energy-generating plants, and of transportation of coal and oil to the plants. These costs are included in our electricity bills or in the purchase price of gasoline for cars.

    But some energy costs are not included in consumer utility or gas bills, nor are they paid for by the companies that produce or sell the energy. These include human health problems caused by air pollution from the burning of coal and oil; damage to land from coal mining and to miners from black lung disease; environmental degradation caused by global warming, acid rain, and water pollution; and national security costs, such as protecting foreign sources of oil.

    Since such costs are indirect and difficult to determine, they have traditionally remained external to the energy pricing system, and are thus often referred to as externalities. And since the producers and the users of energy do not pay for these costs, society as a whole must pay for them. But this pricing system masks the true costs of fossil fuels and results in damage to human health, the environment, and the economy.

    The Hidden Cost of Fossil Fuels | Union of Concerned Scientists
    UCS? are you for real? That group should be named activist Scientists with an agenda....hahaha....Pfft! Just link to the goofs that fudged the reports and that would be as credible....

    You waste my time.
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    Re: Another train carrying oil crashes & catches fire...this time in North Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    UCS? are you for real? That group should be named activist Scientists with an agenda....hahaha....Pfft! Just link to the goofs that fudged the reports and that would be as credible....

    You waste my time.
    Lol, great rebuttal. Busted your chops, you should slink away.
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    Re: Another train carrying oil crashes & catches fire...this time in North Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, great rebuttal. Busted your chops, you should slink away.
    If you had posted something from a group that wasn't just so outrageously biased then I'd say yeah you did, but UCS is just silly....Try again.
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    Re: Another train carrying oil crashes & catches fire...this time in North Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you had posted something from a group that wasn't just so outrageously biased then I'd say yeah you did, but UCS is just silly....Try again.
    They are a group of scientists, educated people with very real concerns. But because their concerns step on your feelings, you dismiss them. That's fine, as you wish. You probably deny that BP ****ed up and did horrific damage to the Gulf of Mexico, and our southern state beaches. And pretend like oil traines aren't falling off the tracks, that miners never get lung cancers, oh brother, actually you're wasting my time.
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    Re: Another train carrying oil crashes & catches fire...this time in North Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They are a group of scientists, educated people with very real concerns. But because their concerns step on your feelings, you dismiss them. That's fine, as you wish.
    No, they don't step on my feelings. I couldn't care less about them...But, they aren't objective either, that's a fact...My suggestion is that you use more reliable sources...
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