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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    What step are you referring to?
    I believe the Pope is trying to bring more left leaning ideas into the church in hopes of keeping his religion relevant.

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    I believe the Pope is trying to bring more left leaning ideas into the church in hopes of keeping his religion relevant.
    And what do you base that belief on?

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    So you want the Church to be illegalized? That's fine, I also want opposing views (like atheistic hedonism) to be suppressed, but at least come out and say it.
    If it would behave in a civilized way (it could start by not employing and covering for child rapists), I would be more than happy to simply ignore it.

    Religiosity does not give you free reign to commit crimes. Or to stalk ex-members, for that matter.

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    If it would behave in a civilized way (it could start by not employing and covering for child rapists), I would be more than happy to simply ignore it.

    Religiosity does not give you free reign to commit crimes. Or to stalk ex-members, for that matter.
    Answer directly. Do you believe the Church, assuming it operates according to its teachings, should be illegal?

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    For non-Catholics, no, I don't think we should.

    That gives the impression that this is in any way good enough. It isn't. The church is barely what might be considered acceptable to exist by legal technicality. That is not good enough in 2015. And if he wants praise and to be welcome at the table of civilized societies, then he needs to keep working.

    No deal.
    Things like this don't change over night. It's a slow and gradual process. Do you believe we shouldn't be praising middle eastern countries for slowly making women relevant in society?

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    And is there any indication that these violent killers regret what they did and realize they were wrong?

    If not, religious mercy is unwarranted.

    And regardless of religion, these evil and dangerous killers still belong in a prison.

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I find it funny that an old man who neither seems to know nor care about the experiences of women thinks they need his mercy. What on earth for?

    This is nothing but a ploy to try to bring back ex-Catholics -- he says he is targeting the "estranged." In other words, women who have shaken off the brainwashing that they need anyone's mercy for doing what's best for their own lives.

    As if they haven't suffered enough at the hands of the church. Perhaps he should save some of that shame for himself. Evidently these women have had quite enough of it.

    I'm sorry, but the Catholic church "updating" itself to only being 200 years behind modernity instead of 500 is just not good enough for me.


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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    And what do you base that belief on?
    He openly criticizes capitalism and says society should be taking care of the poor. Now he's trying to make the church less critical of abortion.

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    He openly criticizes capitalism and says society should be taking care of the poor. Now he's trying to make the church less critical of abortion.
    Capitalism is itself an antitraditional system which the Church has always been critical of. Ditto for caring for the poor. And what reason do you have to believe that he's trying to make the Church less critical of abortion?

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    Re: Pope Francis will send ‘missionaries of mercy’ to absolve women of abortion ‘sin’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Capitalism is itself an antitraditional system which the Church has always been critical of. Ditto for caring for the poor. And what reason do you have to believe that he's trying to make the Church less critical of abortion?
    Offering forgiveness to people that have had abortions is a subtle attempt to change the tone.

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