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Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

Having personal responsibility also leads to jail, so what's your point?

That if everyone had personal responsibility we would have a much better society and getting rid of some of the safety nets would lead to more personal responsibility
 
I don't know why this even has to be stated, but the government is not there to pay for birth control for anyone. It's just a sad statement on our society that...

1. This is even considered, and
2. That people are so stupid that they can not prevent a pregnancy unless someone runs in with free birth control.
 
That if everyone had personal responsibility we would have a much better society and getting rid of some of the safety nets would lead to more personal responsibility

Safety nets; you mean like corporate subsidies and tax breaks? You mean like faith based initiatives? You mean like red states that take more federal funding than any other states? Or are you just talking about feeding and housing needy children?
 
I don't know why this even has to be stated, but the government is not there to pay for birth control for anyone. It's just a sad statement on our society that...

1. This is even considered, and
2. That people are so stupid that they can not prevent a pregnancy unless someone runs in with free birth control.

It's really a health issue. So, what would you have US do?
 
I feel much better, my tax dollars funding program's that help prevent unwanted pregnancy then funding program's which constitute killing people and destroying property which conservatives hand full support. Wtf is wrong with people anyway?

so your idea take money from the tax payers, ..."because you just like something"

the program was intended to be privately funded..but now SOME people want it expanded into the public arena....
 
I don't know why this even has to be stated, but the government is not there to pay for birth control for anyone. It's just a sad statement on our society that...

1. This is even considered, and
2. That people are so stupid that they can not prevent a pregnancy unless someone runs in with free birth control.

Perhaps so, but it is what it is and an ounce of prevention is worth the pound of cure that the right would never pony up. So pay up, or leave Colorado.
 
Well its just an estimate. I took the number of voters in the 2012 presidential election in CO and then took the number that made over 50k (60% of them) and then took the number that voted for Obama (49% of that 60%). Obviously not everyone who voted for Obama is a democrat but most are, even if they dont admit it, and there were plenty who didnt vote, so I'd say the number is somewhere in the ballpark



No I'm arguing against a whole class of govt spending, charity, govt programs should try to be of some benefit to all. Charity is better left in private hands even with our taxation we still manage to give quite a lot of money to charities

and what if the publicly-funded charity actually ends up saving EVERYONE money? not just those who received the charity? I understand if you're just against it based on principle but you've really picked a bad example to go after here since this has been such a successful program.

and it's off-topic, I know, but being a democrat is not something you "admit" to. to be a democrat you have to actually go down to the DMV and get yourself registered as a democrat. if you haven't done that, you're not a democrat.
 
Safety nets; you mean like corporate subsidies and tax breaks? You mean like faith based initiatives? You mean like red states that take more federal funding than any other states? Or are you just talking about feeding and housing needy children?

Just feeding and housing needy children, obviously.
 
It's really a health issue. So, what would you have US do?

If it really were a health issue they wouldn't be installing IUDs in teens.
 
That if everyone had personal responsibility we would have a much better society and getting rid of some of the safety nets would lead to more personal responsibility

do you think getting rid of free birth control for poor people would lead to more personal responsibility? if so, how?

or do you think it would lead to more unwanted pregnancies and more kids who have a statistically lower chance at becoming productive members of society?
 
Perhaps so, but it is what it is and an ounce of prevention is worth the pound of cure that the right would never pony up. So pay up, or leave Colorado.

The right does pony up, to charity. The left chooses to donate other people's money, generally for their own use.
 
I don't know why this even has to be stated, but the government is not there to pay for birth control for anyone. It's just a sad statement on our society that...

1. This is even considered, and
2. That people are so stupid that they can not prevent a pregnancy unless someone runs in with free birth control.

yes, it is sad that people are so stupid they can't prevent a pregnancy without free birth control. that is sad as hell. it's the world we live in, though, and we can either choose to let the problem get worse or we can choose to support successful programs that are proven to help address the problem.
 
so your idea take money from the tax payers, ..."because you just like something"

the program was intended to be privately funded..but now SOME people want it expanded into the public arena....

I'm just saying that I share little responsibility for how my tax dollars are spent. But I feel better about it when they are spent on noble things like unwanted pregnancy prevention, then gratuitous wars. That's all.
 
The right does pony up, to charity. The left chooses to donate other people's money, generally for their own use.

CB, you're not suggesting that the left is uncharitable..........? And paying taxes is incumbent upon all citizens, it's not a partisan thing.
 
Yeah, mental health. Maybe we should stop enabling them?

do you believe that taking away free birth control will lead to increased responsibility or better outcomes for society?

do you believe that taking away free birth control will save the taxpayers money in the long-run?
 
CB, you're not suggesting that the left is uncharitable..........?

Didn't suggest it, I said it. Oh, they are extremely charitable, when it comes to spending other people's money.
 
Didn't suggest it, I said it. Oh, they are extremely charitable, when it comes to spending other people's money.

So your saying that the left doesn't pay taxes or donate to charity. :lamo
 
and what if the publicly-funded charity actually ends up saving EVERYONE money? not just those who received the charity? I understand if you're just against it based on principle but you've really picked a bad example to go after here since this has been such a successful program.

No that precisely why it shouldnt be funded by the govt, it was successful on its own funding

and it's off-topic, I know, but being a democrat is not something you "admit" to. to be a democrat you have to actually go down to the DMV and get yourself registered as a democrat. if you haven't done that, you're not a democrat.

That's exactly what im talking about people who hate "labels", if your an independent who always votes democrat you are a democrat no matter what the (DMV, really? is that how they do it in your state?) DMV says
 
do you believe that taking away free birth control will lead to increased responsibility or better outcomes for society?

do you believe that taking away free birth control will save the taxpayers money in the long-run?

Do you believe that is the only solution, forcing other people to pay for irresponsible people's birth control?
 
do you believe that taking away free birth control will lead to increased responsibility or better outcomes for society?

do you believe that taking away free birth control will save the taxpayers money in the long-run?

Not giving poor people free stuff is apparently more important than a favorable outcome.
 
Do you believe that is the only solution, forcing other people to pay for irresponsible people's birth control?

Like forcing people to pay for gratuitous wars. Only a condom is so much cheaper than a Tomahawk.
 
The right does pony up, to charity. The left chooses to donate other people's money, generally for their own use.

Then they - write it off - so, it's not really giving is it.
 
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