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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    we have a program which is privately funded, which reduces pregnancy by 40%,...so we have people who like the program and say....."lets expand it to the tax payers and make them pay also".
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    if its so successful why do they need to extract money from taxpayers wont they voluntarily donate to such a worthy cause
    Because the public good isn't a profit-seeking business, and a lot of people are too stupid or too selfish to "voluntarily donate" to things that will improve society as a whole and in the longterm and doesn't immediately benefit themselves.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I wonder how much cheaper it would be to have personal responsibility
    And I wonder how much money I could make if my dog started farting rainbows and unicorns.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    it would be a lot cheaper of course! but what if we're talking about a population that lacks personal responsibility? shouldn't the rest of the citizens find ways to alleviate that so that we don't have to support their unwanted children with our tax dollars?
    We dont have to do it now, we choose to, and that could be changed as well.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    We dont have to do it now, we choose to, and that could be changed as well.
    Yeah, we could just let children born into a world they have no control over starve in the streets instead.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Have the tried to get donors? how much are you willing to donate to the program?
    I don't earn enough to pay for the entire program myself, so I would need some help. If someone solicited a donation from me on the street and I had some cash on me, I'd probably throw them $20 or something like that because I can afford it, but what you're really trying to do here is have a conversation about taxation in general. it is valid to believe that government does not have the right to take money from people and give it to others, but if you accept that it's okay for a government to do that, then this program is an obvious example of a good way for government to spend its money because it actually saves the taxpayers money in the long run.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Yeah, we could just let children born into a world they have no control over starve in the streets instead.
    And it sad that their parents would do that to them, however you wish to enable those parents to continue a life of irresponsible choices leaving locked in a poverty cycle unable to learn from their failures.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    And it sad that their parents would do that to them, however you wish to enable those parents to continue a life of irresponsible choices leaving locked in a poverty cycle unable to learn from their failures.
    Yeah, they should choose to be rich instead.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    it was funded by a private donor but wasn't a private program.
    Betcha that private donor was a beard for the company making the IUDs. Handy way to test and market your product, be relatively shielded if it goes wrong and get a tax write off to boot.

    Teens are the worst candidates for IUDs. Chances of STDs are increased during those years, no stable relationship and sexual frequency is high (when given the free pass of BC).

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    And it sad that their parents would do that to them, however you wish to enable those parents to continue a life of irresponsible choices leaving locked in a poverty cycle unable to learn from their failures.
    but by giving them birth control for free, isn't that effectively trying to end the poverty cycle by preventing unwanted pregnancies? you really picked a bad program to stake this argument on.

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