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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    I may be confused, but I don't read anywhere that they killed the program, just that the killed public funding that it never had?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So dumb...on multiple levels.

    I wonder how many prevented unwanted pregnancies by low income individuals pays for the cost of the program?
    I wonder how much cheaper it would be to have personal responsibility

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The government shouldn't be paying for a woman's private birth control. If she's poor she can get of medicaid and have the state pay for it via insurance. This whole entitlement to free birth control is wrong. Manage your own reproductive health and foot your own bill. Why waste money here when it can go to managing chronic disease or life threatening health problems?
    great! but let's say that giving poor women birth control actually saved the state money in the long run through lower welfare payments and health care for children from unwanted pregnancies. let's just assume that that's the case. would you then be in support of giving out free birth control?

    you're just looking at the issue from one perspective. of course any human being should be able to manage their own reproductive care, but if it's better for everyone to just give it to them for free, then why not? I suppose you could say that if we give it to them for free, they'll never learn the error of their ways, but I really don't believe that just letting a problem get worse is the best way to handle that problem.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    okay that's fine, but it's still the correct answer to your question. we extract money from taxpayers for all sorts of things that advance the public interest. you may or may not agree with taxation on certain things but if you ask the question you should expect an answer.
    I did expect an answer what you gave me was a deflection

    care to try again, why should the govt fund charity that has been proven to be successful with private funding?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I wonder how much cheaper it would be to have personal responsibility
    it would be a lot cheaper of course! but what if we're talking about a population that lacks personal responsibility? shouldn't the rest of the citizens find ways to alleviate that so that we don't have to support their unwanted children with our tax dollars?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I wonder how much cheaper it would be to have personal responsibility
    Sure, but do we pass legislation based on a world that never existed or the world we live in?
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I did expect an answer what you gave me was a deflection

    care to try again, why should the govt fund charity that has been proven to be successful with private funding?
    ...because it's a successful program and the private funding isn't there anymore. if they want to continue or expand it, they'll need to extract money from the taxpayers. how is that a deflection?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado | Denver Sun Times

    Republicans in the Colorado Senate killed an effort this week to set aside funding for a birth control program that provides IUDs to low-income women. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative has been praised for contributing to a 40 percent drop in teen births over the last five years. The program, previously funded by a private donor, won an award in Washington, D.C. just days ago.
    That's sectarian governance for ya. Now the cost of government paid health care is going to go way up. But hey, the church is satisfied.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    ...because it's a successful program and the private funding isn't there anymore. if they want to continue or expand it, they'll need to extract money from the taxpayers. how is that a deflection?
    Have the tried to get donors? how much are you willing to donate to the program?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Republicans don't want to help poor people have access to contraception or abortions, and when their children are born they complain about poor people breeding.

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