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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    right. the folks who disagree with me are the folks who say "no matter what we should never give anything to the poor for free, regardless of how it might benefit society." I'm perfectly fine with being on the opposite side of the issue as those folks.
    Yeah, that only works if you believe your own script. You know that one you've built in your head that takes the place of having to actually listen to and understand others. It's advantageous of course, to build that mental strawman. So easily defeated, because you built it to be that way.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nope, the level, today or tomorrow with be set by what we can afford, what we are willing to afford, not the size of the problem. All those other programs come under the same funding restrictions. The bottom line is, it doesn't save **** for the taxpayer. Are you honestly trying to argue that if teen pregnancies drop the taxpayer will pay less come tax time? Naive.
    if teen pregnancies drop, there will be less children who require state assistance. that means less money the taxpayers will give out. that's not na´ve, it's math.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, that only works if you believe your own script. You know that one you've built in your head that takes the place of having to actually listen to and understand others. It's advantageous of course, to build that mental strawman. So easily defeated, because you built it to be that way.
    what points have anyone made that i have not acknowledged? in what way am i not listening to or understanding others?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    People sterilizing themselves isn't illegal.

    And giving folks the option to get bicycles free isn't immoral either, but that isn't a reason to pass out free bicycles.
    sigh. giving out free bicycles won't save taxpayers money the way this program does blah blah blah.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why are we paying people who cannot afford kids to have kids again?
    I'm legitimately confused by this. giving people birth control for free is essentially paying them not to have kids.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    I'm legitimately confused by this. giving people birth control for free is essentially paying them not to have kids.
    So go give out all of the free birth control you want. Who's stopping you?
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    if teen pregnancies drop, there will be less children who require state assistance. that means less money the taxpayers will give out. that's not na´ve, it's math.
    Now you're just doubling down on the naivetÚ. The funding for the programs is set by budget. State and federal program directors know to always spend all of their budgets, every time.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Now you're just doubling down on the naivetÚ. The funding for the programs is set by budget. State and federal program directors know to always spend all of their budgets, every time.
    whether or not that is the case has no bearing on the merits of the program. that is a separate issue that should be addressed separately.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So go give out all of the free birth control you want. Who's stopping you?
    i have a job i do that takes up a lot of my time. it makes more sense to run the program the way it's been run because it's been...you know...successful.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    what points have anyone made that i have not acknowledged? in what way am i not listening to or understanding others?
    Post #225 which I quoted, all you had to do was read your own post. Your envisioned strawman of the argument against giving out free birth control at state expense.

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