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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    right, but all of those other things you're talking about are immoral. giving folks the option to get birth control for free if they want it isn't immoral.
    In your opinion perhaps, but obviously quite a few folks disagree with your take on morality.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

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    Once again, no. The welfare funding is limited and set to a certain amount. We're just talking about how many folks will have access to the same dollar pool. Cramming more in the pool doesn't change the overall physical size of the pool itself.
    I really don't know what you're talking about. just because the welfare limit is set at one level today doesn't mean it couldn't be set at another level tomorrow. also, there are other programs other than welfare that are used to help the poor too. the bottom line, which you already know, is that this program saves taxpayer dollars. you're reaching.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    and there we have it. You don't care what works or what the reality of the situation is. It's just your ideology that matters.
    bingo!
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    ...because it saves us money to do so. although I'd actually argue that subsidizing birth control is subsidizing good choices, unless you believe that birth control is a bad choice for someone to make.
    You still are advocating enabling bad life choices.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In your opinion perhaps, but obviously quite a few folks disagree with your take on morality.
    right. the folks who disagree with me are the folks who say "no matter what we should never give anything to the poor for free, regardless of how it might benefit society." I'm perfectly fine with being on the opposite side of the issue as those folks.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You still are advocating enabling bad life choices.
    like what?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    ...because it saves us money to do so. although I'd actually argue that subsidizing birth control is subsidizing good choices, unless you believe that birth control is a bad choice for someone to make.
    No, it doesn't save us money, again the welfare funding will not be shrinking because a few unmarried teens don't have babies. And no, subsidizing birth control does not subsidize good choices, it simply shields from the consequences of bad choices.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    like what?
    Why are we paying people who cannot afford kids to have kids again?
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    right, but all of those other things you're talking about are immoral. giving folks the option to get birth control for free if they want it isn't immoral.
    People sterilizing themselves isn't illegal.

    And giving folks the option to get bicycles free isn't immoral either, but that isn't a reason to pass out free bicycles.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    I really don't know what you're talking about. just because the welfare limit is set at one level today doesn't mean it couldn't be set at another level tomorrow. also, there are other programs other than welfare that are used to help the poor too. the bottom line, which you already know, is that this program saves taxpayer dollars. you're reaching.
    Nope, the level, today or tomorrow with be set by what we can afford, what we are willing to afford, not the size of the problem. All those other programs come under the same funding restrictions. The bottom line is, it doesn't save **** for the taxpayer. Are you honestly trying to argue that if teen pregnancies drop the taxpayer will pay less come tax time? Naive.

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