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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's immaterial, it was unconstitutional.
    not immaterial to the discussion we were having and you were participating in.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, we've been discussing the funding of the program. You and others here think it's just terrible we haven't fallen for this rather obvious sales ploy by an IUD manufacturer. Further you believe that IUDs are harmless considering you or someone you know used one once and they/you are okay. You do know that not all the thalidomide mothers had flipper babies, right? Some touted it as a wonder drug.

    Lots of programs could be very effective, heck forced sterilization will reduce unwanted pregnancies nearly every time, and it's cheap. Don't think it hasn't been suggested, and by luminary figures (eugenics). But we don't do that for moral reasons. Just as we don't fund elective birth control.
    are you telling me what I believe? did I say IUDs were harmless?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    are you telling me what I believe? did I say IUDs were harmless?
    Read back in the thread, that is precisely the argument others for this program are using. And if you do not consider them harmless, why are you so hot to continue this program which is all about installing IUDs?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Read back in the thread, that is precisely the argument others for this program are using. And if you do not consider them harmless, why are you so hot to continue this program which is all about installing IUDs?
    then you should address those posters who have said IUDs are harmless if you want to talk about that topic.

    i'm hot to continue the program because it's successful. "not harmless" doesn't equate to "so dangerous that no one should use them".

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    then you should address those posters who have said IUDs are harmless if you want to talk about that topic.

    i'm hot to continue the program because it's successful. "not harmless" doesn't equate to "so dangerous that no one should use them".
    then the person that started it should in fact keep it going with private donations and charity contributions. taxpayers shouldn't be buying people contraceptives.
    sounds like a personal responsibility to me.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    then you should address those posters who have said IUDs are harmless if you want to talk about that topic.

    i'm hot to continue the program because it's successful. "not harmless" doesn't equate to "so dangerous that no one should use them".
    So, you're okay with some people being harmed as long as you can get your free birth control. Nevermind that the target population for this program are ones most likely to be harmed by IUD use (teens).

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    then the person that started it should in fact keep it going with private donations and charity contributions. taxpayers shouldn't be buying people contraceptives.
    sounds like a personal responsibility to me.
    Hah, yeah, except the only motivation for the "donation" to begin with was to open up a state paid market to a product.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Looks like Colorado Republicans want to go with the Crane Public School in West Texas model of “Abstinence-Only” education... you know, the one where there was an eventual outbreak of Chlamydia.

    In this case it appears they are looking for a sister idea that will balloon teen pregnancies.
    My tax dollars don't need to be paying for your kid's contraception.

    Be a parent and teach her to keep her legs closed until she can afford her own condoms.

    Your daughter's sex life isn't my problem or responsibility

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So, you're okay with some people being harmed as long as you can get your free birth control. Nevermind that the target population for this program are ones most likely to be harmed by IUD use (teens).
    no, i'm okay with some (whatever that means) people being harmed as long as the program is successful overall which includes the idea that most people won't be harmed. people who participate in the program should be properly educated about its risks. this argument is similar to saying we should do away with the military entirely because some civilians have been killed as a result of their actions.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    My tax dollars don't need to be paying for your kid's contraception.

    Be a parent and teach her to keep her legs closed until she can afford her own condoms.

    Your daughter's sex life isn't my problem or responsibility
    his daughter's sex life IS your problem though because she might have a kid who ends up on welfare and then you end up footing the bill.

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