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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    IE you can't rebute anything I said thanks.

    you also forget 1 thing it is in the constitution that the government supply for the common defense.
    there is nothing in there that says government should pay for your birth control.

    so your point is moot.
    I'm not speaking of common defense, so you are moot.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not speaking of common defense, so you are moot.
    yes you are when you say you should say the same thing about the wars. that is providing for the common defense.
    The government has the constitutional duty to protect the American people from threats both foreign and domestic.

    it does not have the duty to supply birth control to people.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    And why cant they find more private donors to expand the program?
    Actually the funds were running out and they want to extend/continue not expend the program.

    One person/ foundation ( anonymous ) was very generous and donated 23 million for a program to fund the IUDs.
    It may been part of estate after the person passed away for all we know.

    It was gift , ... The state got the savings by having reduced welfare costs.

    The Colorado Family Planning Initiative, supported by a $23 million anonymous donation, provided more than 30,000 IUDs or implants to women served by the state’s 68 family-planning clinics. The state’s analysis suggests the initiative was responsible for three-quarters of the decline in the state’s teen birth rates.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    no because birth control isnt %100 effective ...
    The copper IUD has a .8 percent ( that is point 8 percent) failure rate according to the CDC .
    Others have a .02 percent failure rate.

    http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...traception.htm

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If it really were a health issue they wouldn't be installing IUDs in teens.
    Actually according to a new study the IUDs are safe for teens.

    From women's health mag


    A new study published in the May issue of Obstetrics & Gynecology found that the intrauterine device—a quarter-size, T-shaped contraption that sits inside the uterus—is a safe birth control method for women of any age, including teenagers. Among the study findings: less than once percent of users developed complications, and discontinuation rates were the same across all age groups (a tip-off that younger women experienced no greater side effects or dissatisfaction than older users did).

    It’s welcome news, especially since IUDs are more than 99 percent effective at blocking pregnancy for up to 10 hassle-free years. Hopefully the study will put to rest longstanding rumors that IUDs are potentially harmful.
    http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/iud-safety

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    The real question is how to cut down on teen pregnancies and not just give out free birth control (free to them, not to me). I mean, will these people only use BC if it's free? Is it really that expensive? Whatever is done, it should discourage teen pregnancy, not give them free stuff. They should be made to pay for it in some way.
    iUDs really are that expensive.
    The up front cost if one is not insured is between $800 to $1000 to have an IUD inserted.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    If you gave them houses, cars, and a $50,000 yearly tipend, why think of the economic boom! Oh, and throw in food stamps, and free health insurance. Why think of how wonderful it could all be...
    ...but that wouldn't be saving the state money in the long run. how is your post at all relevant to what we've been talking about?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    iUDs really are that expensive.
    The up front cost if one is not insured is between $800 to $1000 to have an IUD inserted.
    I think BC exists that is much cheaper than that. Beggars can't be choosers.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What's that pro-choice slogan? Get the government out of the uterus?
    That's a very interesting post cp. And thought provoking. Stay out of my body and my reproductive choices.....except when I want you to pay for it.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    ...but that wouldn't be saving the state money in the long run. how is your post at all relevant to what we've been talking about?
    Oh, I thought this was all about free **** to people because they have a right to it, I see now it's "potential saved money" because that fits todays meme.
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