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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So essentially we are not arguing about really anything and essentially agreeing. Now do you think the state should move forward with the policy?
    No, as I've been clear about since the beginning of the thread. I disagree that our government, local, state or federal should be funding anyone's birth control. But as to this particular program, I think it especially stupid to have the method being funded to be IUDs. That makes it doubly objectionable.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

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    Anonymous private grant. You're really hinging on this "cronyism" card arent you? Even though there is literally no evidence that points that direction..

    Apparently you dont understand how a RFPs work....
    Are you talking about an RFP, or is a "RFPs" an abbreviation for something else?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In this case and context, yes. And you can drop the silly attempt to bundle in "immunisations" to the discussion. IUDs for teens are contraindicated, that means not recommended. The reasons have been explained to you and sourced.
    Yes, and I pointed out my own successful experience with them. But to the bigger picture, IUD's are not the only form of contraception, eh. Are you opposed only to providing IUD's in this program, or any form of contraception in this program?
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, as I've been clear about since the beginning of the thread. I disagree that our government, local, state or federal should be funding anyone's birth control. But as to this particular program, I think it especially stupid to have the method being funded to be IUDs. That makes it doubly objectionable.
    Why? Saved money, reduced abortion, decrease teenage birth rates, was an overall success...


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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

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    Are you talking about an RFP, or is a "RFPs" an abbreviation for something else?
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

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    I'm talking about charitable donations... But you knew that.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

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    Request for Proposals
    And what's your experience with how RFPs and etc. work?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And what's your experience with how RFPs and etc. work?
    Well I do them and coordinate them almost on a weekly basis for my job. My employment entails a great deal of contracted services.


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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    $5 million? The rich Hollywood elite make that in a week. It should be very easy to get this funding elsewhere. The taxpayers of Colorado don't need to be responsible for other peoples' birth control.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    One, it rarely is beneficial for anyone but the company. Two, again, IUDs are not as safe under general conditions as the company spin doctors are reporting. If you're relatively sedentary, have a long term stable relationship and no chance of STDs, they're good, or at least some of them are.
    by all accounts I've read the program has been successful in producing a favorable outcome in the area it was implemented. this seems to be one of the rare cases where it's beneficial for both the company and the taxpayers, is it not? I'm not well versed in the advantages/disadvantages of IUDs as a BC method but it seems to me like if the program is successful and is serving its intended purpose, it should be continued.

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