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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I wouldn't either. Contraception and immunisations are just like firecrackers.
    In this case and context, yes. And you can drop the silly attempt to bundle in "immunisations" to the discussion. IUDs for teens are contraindicated, that means not recommended. The reasons have been explained to you and sourced.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because grant money only gets you so far. By your logic we should just expand everything with private grant money, not actual public expenditures. The program was limited, and now they are wanting to make it state wide. You should not, and in this case probably cannot expand this program statewide based solely and relying solely on private grant money. Its unrealistic and just not doable if you want to rely on private grant money to fund a whole statewide program.
    How is this any different than any other company giving a freebie to one locality so that the state will then pay for the product statewide with taxpayer funds? Normally you would go ballistic about this sort of thing.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The government shouldn't be paying for a woman's private birth control. If she's poor she can get of medicaid and have the state pay for it via insurance. This whole entitlement to free birth control is wrong. Manage your own reproductive health and foot your own bill. Why waste money here when it can go to managing chronic disease or life threatening health problems?
    You are so wrong on so many levels. Medicaid is taxpayer funded so what's the difference? You want fewer abortions? Provide contraception to those who can't afford it. It's pretty simple really, and MUCH cheaper,than supporting children born to parents who could not afford them.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    You are so wrong on so many levels. Medicaid is taxpayer funded so what's the difference? You want fewer abortions? Provide contraception to those who can't afford it. It's pretty simple really, and MUCH cheaper,than supporting children born to parents who could not afford them.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for the day, teach a man to fish and he can always feed himself. Learn to manage your own reproductive health.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado | Denver Sun Times

    Republicans in the Colorado Senate killed an effort this week to set aside funding for a birth control program that provides IUDs to low-income women. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative has been praised for contributing to a 40 percent drop in teen births over the last five years. The program, previously funded by a private donor, won an award in Washington, D.C. just days ago.
    Dumb and dumber. I get that people think they shouldn't have to pay for birth control for people but it has been proven to reduce teen births and therefore, save money. As a fiscal conservative, I think this is totally ridiculous.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I did expect an answer what you gave me was a deflection

    care to try again, why should the govt fund charity that has been proven to be successful with private funding?
    Because that charity is ending and it would save the govt money.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Why can't people just pay for their own choices?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Dumb and dumber. I get that people think they shouldn't have to pay for birth control for people but it has been proven to reduce teen births and therefore, save money. As a fiscal conservative, I think this is totally ridiculous.
    I'd agree with you on this, or at least be willing to debate the necessity of free birth control, but that is not the only issue at hand here. It's the type of BC and the motive for choosing this method of BC that is a severe issue for me.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    How is this any different than any other company giving a freebie to one locality so that the state will then pay for the product statewide with taxpayer funds? Normally you would go ballistic about this sort of thing.
    Ummmm how is this a "freebie"? And if you mean "freebie" by possibly having to purchase IUD's from a private company via government contract, I mean, you do realize that this is how our government all around, and many state governments all around function? Example construction contracts for roads, construction contracts for new buildings, etc...


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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why can't people just pay for their own choices?
    they can! they just don't. so then the question becomes what should we do about that, if anything.

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