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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Then they - write it off - so, it's not really giving is it.
    I didn't know that you could "write off" donations at 100%. Or maybe the majority just plain comes out of their pockets.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    taxation should never be forced....because when it is and used for things like redistribution...its wrong.

    when taxation is by commerce only, then taxes are not forced, and money can be used for redistribution.

    the military is power of the u.s. federal government.

    noble things are subjective...
    Well sure, I agree with that, but then that's a whole other subject. At present we have a graduated income tax and I have to put up with much of my contribution being spent in ways that I do not like. But unwanted pregnancy prevention isn't one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    : so basically you will be voting democrat in 2016, Rand Paul wont win the GOP primary for the same reason that you would vote for him he doesnt line up with enough of the average GOP voter beliefs
    well that's why I said it depends on the campaign. he may or may not get the nomination, but my point is that if I trust the person who does get the nomination on the most important issues more than the dem nominee, then I would vote for that republican. I just used rand paul as an example. if it gets to the point where I'm 50% torn in both directions, I won't vote.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Yeah, mental health. Maybe we should stop enabling them?
    hey now, I answered your question and you haven't answered mine yet. that doesn't seem fair.

    do you believe that taking away free birth control will lead to increased responsibility or better outcomes for society?

    do you believe that taking away free birth control will save the taxpayers money in the long-run?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You do realize we're not talking about condoms here. In fact, what we're most likely talking about is a test and marketing run sponsored by one of those evil Big Pharma corps you detest.
    I don't detest Big Pharma. I detest deregulation. But that's another subject. I'll gladly see my tax dollars go toward any form of contraception as unwanted pregnancy prevention and continue to protest paying for the gratuitous wars that you boys cream yourselves over.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado | Denver Sun Times

    Republicans in the Colorado Senate killed an effort this week to set aside funding for a birth control program that provides IUDs to low-income women. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative has been praised for contributing to a 40 percent drop in teen births over the last five years. The program, previously funded by a private donor, won an award in Washington, D.C. just days ago.
    Good. Neither the government nor anyone else should assist in the perpetration of such heinous evils.

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't detest Big Pharma. I detest deregulation. But that's another subject. I'll gladly see my tax dollars go toward any form of contraception as unwanted pregnancy prevention and continue to protest paying for the gratuitous wars that you boys cream yourselves over.
    Oh now you don't. Good, I'll remember that.

    So, sterilization is a form of contraception. It's very effective and drops those pregnancy rates right on down to the basement. Funny, it's also one of the downsides to issuing IUDs to teens who have a greater chance of contracting STDs. STD plus IUD equals sterility. You support this contraception option?

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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I didn't know that you could "write off" donations at 100%. Or maybe the majority just plain comes out of their pockets.
    You write off percentages, and the government pays you based on those percentages. So there's a public subsidy that the government could save a lot of money on.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You write off percentages, and the government pays you based on those percentages. So there's a public subsidy that the government could save a lot of money on.
    I think you have that back.wards.
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    Re: Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Oh now you don't. Good, I'll remember that.

    So, sterilization is a form of contraception. It's very effective and drops those pregnancy rates right on down to the basement. Funny, it's also one of the downsides to issuing IUDs to teens who have a greater chance of contracting STDs. STD plus IUD equals sterility. You support this contraception option?
    When I was a youngster both my girlfriend and latter my wife successfully used IUD's. Immunisations are accompanied with risks, but I support them as well. And I do not have issues with big Pharma if my government installs consumer protection laws that defend me from predatory practices, see?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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