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    NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules[W:25]

    Quote Originally Posted by WTOP
    WASHINGTON — The National Security Agency program that collected telephone call information on billions of calls is illegal, the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled.
    The federal appeals court said the law Congress passed to allow information relevant to terrorism investigations to be collected does not authorize the “bulk collection” of phone records on the scale of the NSA program, POLITICO reports.
    The three-judge panel did not address whether the NSA program violated the Constitution.
    NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules - WTOP


    This is hot off the presses.... USAToday and Politico is corroborating the story. Ultimately the vast collection of big data which is being collected for possible use in the future, is not legal according to the 2nd Circuit appeals court. IMO it never was and is lazy and unconstitutional. Let's see if this gets escalated further and finally ends up on the SCOTUS desk.
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    Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    The National Security Agency's bulk collection of data about Americans' telephone calls goes beyond what Congress intended when it wrote section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, a federal appeals court ruled on Thursday.The court was asked to consider whether the program violated the constitution. Instead, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit punted on the constitutional claim, deciding the program was simply not authorized by federal law.
    The court wrote that one of the big reasons it is hard to discern congressional intent in this case is because the bulk collection program has been shrouded in secrecy. So it cannot "reasonably be said" that Congress Okayed "a program of which many members of Congress – and all members of the public – were not aware."


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    Woah! Did not see that one coming! But hey, great news for privacy! Hope this gives some momentum for more lawsuits and rulings that are similar in the future!
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Conservatives will be outraged at this ruling defending American privacy no doubt.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Conservatives will be outraged at this ruling defending American privacy no doubt.
    Why would conservatives be outraged? This is something that has only gotten worse under Obama.
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    More info here: Appeals Court Rules NSA Phone Program Not Authorized by Patriot Act - WSJ
    WASHINGTON—A federal appeals court ruled Thursday the National Security Agency’s controversial collection of millions of Americans’ phone records isn’t authorized by the Patriot Act, as the Bush and Obama administrations have long maintained.

    The NSA has used the Patriot Act to justify collecting records of nearly every call made in the U.S. and entering them into a database to search for possible contacts among terrorism suspects.

    The scope of the program was revealed when former NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked documents describing the program, triggering a national debate over the extent of the data collection.

    The ruling by the three-judge panel in New York comes at a delicate point in the national debate over government surveillance, as Section 215 of the Patriot Act is due to expire next month and lawmakers are haggling about whether to renew it, modify it, or let it lapse.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Conservatives will be outraged at this ruling defending American privacy no doubt.
    I haven't seen this particular case break on partisan lines. It seems to be more of a "statist/libertarian" thing, to use the terms loosley. Lefties and Righties come in both flavors.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why would conservatives be outraged? This is something that has only gotten worse under Obama.
    Thanks for proving my point and ignoring that "foot in the door" principle.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Thanks for proving my point and ignoring that "foot in the door" principle.
    Unless your point was that liberals perform even worse on unconstitutional matters than conservatives, think again.
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

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    Woah! Did not see that one coming! But hey, great news for privacy! Hope this gives some momentum for more lawsuits and rulings that are similar in the future! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Finally, the voice of reason. Too bad that ole (D) and (R) have found so many ways around the Bill of Rights that it has almost become a worthless addition to the Constitution.
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    Good start. Now, let's repeal the rest of the so called "Patriot Act" and restore the Fourth Amendment. Perhaps when we're through, we can start on the Fifth, maybe even the Tenth.
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