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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why would conservatives be outraged? This is something that has only gotten worse under Obama.
    Worse how?
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And what moron would wish to do that?

    The ACA was enacted to increase the quality and affordability of health insurance, lower the uninsured rate by expanding public and private insurance coverage, and reduce the costs of healthcare for individuals and the government. It introduced mechanisms like mandates, subsidies, and insurance exchanges.[1][2] The law requires insurance companies to cover all applicants within new minimum standards and offer the same rates regardless of pre-existing conditions or sex.[3] Additional reforms were increased competition, regulation, and incentives to streamline the delivery of healthcare. In 2011 the Congressional Budget Office projected that the ACA would lower both future deficits[4] and Medicare spending.
    And yet, for many of us, it hasnt done that. We pay a ****load every month for NOTHING and a deductible of $6000 if we're lucky, but others get their health care...actual care...for free. How nice. And fair. And practical. /sarcasm. And useless for actual health care for us. Until there is a disaster.
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the PA was just an electronic upgrade of the FISA Act which you have been living under since Jimmy Carter was POTUS. And by that I mean an adjustment to cope with the new reality of the information/computer age.

    I don't think our politicians hate us or the constitution. The house critters are largely firmly stuck in district politics, as they should be, that's by design. Even though nationally they may look like raving loons. The senate critters are invested in their careers and legacies more than their country for the most part.
    Have you read the Patriot Act? It did alot more then that.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules[W:25]

    McConnell wants the Patriot Act passed without change. And he will get just that in the Senate. Though the House is always anyone's guess .
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    Re: Federal Court: Bulk Collection Of Phone Metadata Is Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the PA was just an electronic upgrade of the FISA Act which you have been living under since Jimmy Carter was POTUS. And by that I mean an adjustment to cope with the new reality of the information/computer age.

    I don't think our politicians hate us or the constitution. The house critters are largely firmly stuck in district politics, as they should be, that's by design. Even though nationally they may look like raving loons. The senate critters are invested in their careers and legacies more than their country for the most part.
    That and trying to make the other party look even worse than their own.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why would conservatives be outraged? This is something that has only gotten worse under Obama.
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Conservatives will be outraged at this ruling defending American privacy no doubt.
    We will?
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why would conservatives be outraged? This is something that has only gotten worse under Obama.
    Well they are coming out to defend it...
    McConnell, GOP defend NSA

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and other top Republicans on Thursday defended the National Security Agency’s surveillance program as vital to protecting national security.

    McConnell and other Republicans also starkly criticized legislation that would effectively end the NSA’s bulk phone records collection program.

    McConnell said that the USA Freedom Act, which would change the NSA program, would damage national security by allowing “untrained corporate employees” to collect phone data.

    The bill would rein in the NSA by ending its current collection practices. To obtain data, the NSA would have to ask private companies for a narrow set of phone records that are involved in a particular case. The NSA would no longer hold the records itself.

    McConnell criticized this as placing “a wall” between the NSA and the data. "
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well they are coming out to defend it...
    McConnell, GOP defend NSA

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and other top Republicans on Thursday defended the National Security Agency’s surveillance program as vital to protecting national security.

    McConnell and other Republicans also starkly criticized legislation that would effectively end the NSA’s bulk phone records collection program.

    McConnell said that the USA Freedom Act, which would change the NSA program, would damage national security by allowing “untrained corporate employees” to collect phone data.

    The bill would rein in the NSA by ending its current collection practices. To obtain data, the NSA would have to ask private companies for a narrow set of phone records that are involved in a particular case. The NSA would no longer hold the records itself.

    McConnell criticized this as placing “a wall” between the NSA and the data. "
    Hey fun, Obama defends the NSA as well, that must mean all Democrats and liberals love the NSA spying as well!!
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    Re: NSA collection of phone info illegal, court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well they are coming out to defend it...
    McConnell, GOP defend NSA

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and other top Republicans on Thursday defended the National Security Agency’s surveillance program as vital to protecting national security.

    McConnell and other Republicans also starkly criticized legislation that would effectively end the NSA’s bulk phone records collection program.

    McConnell said that the USA Freedom Act, which would change the NSA program, would damage national security by allowing “untrained corporate employees” to collect phone data.

    The bill would rein in the NSA by ending its current collection practices. To obtain data, the NSA would have to ask private companies for a narrow set of phone records that are involved in a particular case. The NSA would no longer hold the records itself.

    McConnell criticized this as placing “a wall” between the NSA and the data. "
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