View Poll Results: Mayor seeks Justice Dept. to conduct Civil Rights Police inquiry- Correct decision?

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  • Pandering to the public

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Thread: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

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    Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us...T.nav=top-news

    “We have to have a foundation of trust,” she said, “and I believe that we need the assistance of the Department of Justice and the civil rights investigation to shore up that foundation, which is weak right now in this city.”

    The Justice Department has been considering investigating Baltimore for years, current and former officials said, but held off because the city appeared willing to make changes and had invited an earlier, voluntary review. Now that the mayor and other city officials have said that review is insufficient, it is far more likely that the department will launch a full investigation.
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    "Pandering to the Public" *and* issue avoidance. It moves the whole mess off her plate for someone else to deal with while she runs around using plenty of mic time appealing to the very condition she helped create.
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Bad move for the Mayor to basically hand over the running of her police department to the DoJ. Not a great leadership move.
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Would have added "distracting from utter incompetence".

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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Bad move for the Mayor to basically hand over the running of her police department to the DoJ. Not a great leadership move.
    What should she have done?
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    What should she have done?
    She's supposed to be a leader, so if she perceives there's a problem she should work to correct it. You don't just shrug your shoulders and invite the feds in to take care of your city for you. That's supposed to be the job she was elected to do.
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Yes, the mayor gets to pretend to have acted while shifting the actual leadership/responsibiilty, including any recommended changes, to others - pandering (politics?) at its finest.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    She's supposed to be a leader, so if she perceives there's a problem she should work to correct it. You don't just shrug your shoulders and invite the feds in to take care of your city for you. That's supposed to be the job she was elected to do.
    I agree - pro active the feds were reviewing and sure as little green apples will give you the runs, that are coming.
    She dropped the ball on the riots.
    My opinion, she is looking now to build support with voters.
    Election planning.
    She would have been well aware of any police abuses, what did she do that was proactive as she has been mayor since 2011?
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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    It's unquestionably pandering, shouldn't be done (at this point) and equates to throwing the PD under the bus.

    I have no doubt that something went way, way off the tracks in this particular incident and that it's likely there was police misconduct involved. I also don't think we have the complete story yet.

    I really can't think of a whole lot of reasonable scenarios where a perp gets hooked up, tossed in a paddy wagon and comes out dead from a spinal injury. Yeah, it's possible that he was on PCP or something and thrashed around enough to injure himself but the short clip I saw of them loading him didn't look like that was happening. Based on the little bit of information I've heard regarding this I don't have a problem with some kind of charges against the cops. If they're not responsible then it will probably come out in the wash but there sure seems to be enough to warrant a good, long look at what happened.

    There is also enough stuff going on to warrant a look at the PD as a whole.....and the prosecutor's office....and the mayor's office. There seems to be a whole lot of stuff wrong in Baltimore. That, however, isn't for the DoJ to determine at this time. Let the State deal with this right now. The DoJ has a definite agenda when it comes to this kind of thing. They would like nothing more than to nationalize all the local police departments and cram political correctness down their throats whether that actually improved crime rates or not.

    There MUST be a separation of state and federal authority in this country or our Constitution may as well be tossed on the junk heap. There also must be a separation of law enforcement functions and judicial functions. The judiciary is supposed to be one of the principle tools for keeping law enforcement in check but law enforcement has to be allowed to directly address crime issues in their jurisdiction. They can't operate effectively if their every move is subject to intense and overbearing scrutiny. If this kind of overreach keeps up we're going to turn the police departments into bureaucracies where nothing gets done and the citizens are the ones that will suffer.

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    Re: Baltimore Mayor, After Freddie Gray Death, Seeks Justice Dept. Police Inquiry

    As a police officer, witnessing this makes me never want to work in a city that has black leadership. I couldnt trust that they would stick up for me as a white officer.

    The clear exception is Milwaukee Country Sheriff David Clarke...who quite frankly is POTUS material.

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