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    Re: Stop reading to your child cuz it's not fair to disadvantaged children... WTF??

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The amazing thing is the link to the ABC story is in your post, and yet you have clearly not read it. Why do you insist on letting others do your thinking for you? Hint: here is a quote from the story:



    The whole thing is basically two philosophers looking at what they think of as difficult concepts and tradeoffs, you know, philosophically. They do not in any way seem to be advocating policy or anything like that, just looking at the effects of children of family activities.

    The "philosopher" who is puking up this crap appears to be working off the assumption that social inequality is a bad thing.

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    Re: Stop reading to your child cuz it's not fair to disadvantaged children... WTF??

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Actually, it is what the article is saying. It is saying that reading to your child gives them an unfair advantage over the kids who are not read to.
    The article claims that is what the people in the ABC article said. It is not.
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    Re: Stop reading to your child cuz it's not fair to disadvantaged children... WTF??

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The "philosopher" who is puking up this crap appears to be working off the assumption that social inequality is a bad thing.
    To an extent, yes. However, they are accurate when they say that reading to a child tends to have a dramatic impact on the child's abilities, something they in fact encourage parents to do.
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    Re: Bedtime reading could disadvantage other children, academic says

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    I see you avoided all the real problems that has caused no books in poor households. Failed Liberalism.
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    Re: Bedtime reading could disadvantage other children, academic says

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    People living in poverty have access to free books through schools and libraries. The problem isn't that they can't get the books --- it's that some parents don't give a damn about their kids having books at home.
    Giving kids free books solves both problems--no books and parents not willing or able to get books.

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    Re: Stop reading to your child cuz it's not fair to disadvantaged children... WTF??

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    THE ABC has questioned whether parents should read to their children before bedtime, claiming it could give your kids an “unfair advantage” over less fortunate children.
    “Is having a loving family an unfair advantage?” asks a story on the ABC’s website.
    “Should parents snuggling up for one last story before lights out be even a little concerned about the advantage they might be conferring?”
    The story was followed by a broadcast on the ABC’s Radio National that also tackled the apparently divisive issue of bedtime reading.
    “Evidence shows that the difference between those who get bedtime stories and those who don’t — the difference in their life chances — is bigger than the difference between those who get elite private schooling and those that don’t,” British academic Adam Swift told ABC presenter Joe Gelonesi.
    Gelonesi responded online: “This devilish twist of evidence surely leads to a further conclusion that perhaps — in the interests of levelling the playing field — bedtime stories should also be restricted.”
    Contacted by The Daily Telegraph, Gelonesi said the bedtime stories angle was highlighted by the ABC “as a way of getting attention”.
    Asked if it might be just as easy to level the playing field by encouraging other parents to read bedtime stories, Gelonesi said: “We didn’t discuss that.”
    Swift said parents should be mindful of the advantage provided by bedtime reading.
    “I don’t think parents reading their children bedtime stories should constantly have in their minds the way that they are unfairly disadvantaging other people’s children, but I think they should have that thought occasionally,” he said.Professor Frank Oberklaid, from the Murdoch Childrens Research Institute said he was bewildered by the idea.
    “It’s one of the more bizarre things I’ve heard,” he said. “We should be bringing all kids up to the next level.”
    One has to wonder if Mr. Gelonesi read the classic short story Harrison Bergeron, and completely misunderstood the point of it. Perhaps his parents should have read him this story before bedtime, when he was a child, and explained it to him. How sad that he had to grow up without that advantage.
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    Re: Stop reading to your child cuz it's not fair to disadvantaged children... WTF??

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So let me get this straight.

    Good parents who take the time to read to their kids when they go to bed should stop, so the lazy, shiftless parents who don't bother, won't have disadvantaged children?

    That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.
    Yes it is stupid. That explains why no one has advocated for a ban on story telling
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    Re: Bedtime reading could disadvantage other children, academic says

    Quote Originally Posted by logansrun View Post
    Giving kids free books solves both problems--no books and parents not willing or able to get books.
    You can get books very cheap at yard sales and used bookstores or get them for free from friends, family, and even some charities. Someone that can't pay a quarter for a kids book at a yards sale has serious money problems.

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    Re: Bedtime reading could disadvantage other children, academic says

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    I see no one on either side of the fence supporting this.
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    Re: Bedtime reading could disadvantage other children, academic says

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You can get books very cheap at yard sales and used bookstores or get them for free from friends, family, and even some charities. Someone that can't pay a quarter for a kids book at a yards sale has serious money problems.
    A lot of Americans have serious money problems.

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