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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

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    Yeah....I don't think he is qualified. His Oath is to country, not BO. A Joint Chief of Staff.....needs to be one who can tell BO. What you are thinking. Wont work and these are the options. Its all you have. Advising is part of the puzzle BO needs to learn about.

    Do you think with that career he deserves 4 Stars?
    There are times when soldiers advance rank faster than that. Obama saw something in this soldier and believed that he was under ranked for his abilities and skills. I don't see a problem. But I know that Obama couldn't pick a man for the job that would meet your approval.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

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    There are times when soldiers advance rank faster than that. Obama saw something in this soldier and believed that he was under ranked for his abilities and skills. I don't see a problem. But I know that Obama couldn't pick a man for the job that would meet your approval.

    Not really Monte.....it has been rapid for him and more than likely due to BO. Although I do wonder what our Marine Vets have to say about the fast tracking of this General.

    Really.....I had no problem with him picking Petraeus as Head of CIA. Nor did I have any trouble with him picking Gates as his SOD. Nor La Hood as Sec of Transportation.

    I didn't care for Hagel as SOD and didn't think he was Qualified for that Hat either. But like with this Marine General.....its not really much having to do with BO and his picking him. It has to do with his career. Where, how long, and what he has had Command over.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not really Monte.....it has been rapid for him and more than likely due to BO. Although I do wonder what our Marine Vets have to say about the fast tracking of this General.

    Really.....I had no problem with him picking Petraeus as Head of CIA. Nor did I have any trouble with him picking Gates as his SOD. Nor La Hood as Sec of Transportation.

    I didn't care for Hagel as SOD and didn't think he was Qualified for that Hat either. But like with this Marine General.....its not really much having to do with BO and his picking him. It has to do with his career. Where, how long, and what he has had Command over.
    What do you mean not really?? That's exactly what I said. I pointed out it was likely because of Obama and why. As I said, I really don't care. A president, any president is going to be sure to have a man as Joint Chief who he can communicate with, understands and trusts. There's little unconventional about this. Makes for good partisan distraction though.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What do you mean not really?? That's exactly what I said. I pointed out it was likely because of Obama and why. As I said, I really don't care. A president, any president is going to be sure to have a man as Joint Chief who he can communicate with, understands and trusts. There's little unconventional about this. Makes for good partisan distraction though.


    I was responding to......There are times when soldiers advance rank faster than that.

    As it isn't common for rapid promotion from a one Star to a 4.....and those who have done so. Have the record and career to show why. Way more combat experience too.

    Well, it also makes for knowing whats to come with his camera appearances.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I was responding to......There are times when soldiers advance rank faster than that.

    As it isn't common for rapid promotion from a one Star to a 4.....and those who have done so. Have the record and career to show why. Way more combat experience too.

    Well, it also makes for knowing whats to come with his camera appearances.
    I already responded to that though. Apparently, during his interaction with the man he perceived that he was under ranked for his skills and abilities and Obama saw commander in him several years ago. I'm sure he's a good soldier and would make you proud. Do you know him. Anyway, there's nothing here, bigger fish to fry.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I already responded to that though. Apparently, during his interaction with the man he perceived that he was under ranked for his skills and abilities and Obama saw commander in him several years ago. I'm sure he's a good soldier and would make you proud. Do you know him. Anyway, there's nothing here, bigger fish to fry.

    Nah, never knew him.....he never fought in NAM. His career began in 78.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama liked him from the time he met him and immediately built a relationship with him. He related to him, understood him, and after a period grew to trust him and his advise, seeing things went well when he followed it. He said some of that yesterday. So he cleared a path for his rise in rank, wanting him ultimately in the position that he may be in next. Do you have a problem with the soldier?
    he's not a soldier.. he's a Marine.

    fast tracking Gnerals is primarily an internal mechanism within the individual branches, though the President ultimately decides whether or not to nominate a board approved officer.... and the Senate has to sign off on the nomination.
    like everything else when it comes to general officers, political pressure can and is applied by ranking civilians.. especially SecDef... to secure promotions and billets.
    ( promotion boards are not going to thwart the whims and will of SecDef or CinC.. or even ranking congresscritters)

    this particular case of fast-tracking is extremely fast... incredibly fast....without a doubt , this guy made friends with the right people at the right times.. both in uniform, and out.

    that said, he's obvisouly a very capable officer and I have no doubts he will serve this post honorably and with skill....he's a Marine afer all.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

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    Nah, never knew him.....he never fought in NAM. His career began in 78.
    You're an oldster are ya?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

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    he's not a soldier.. he's a Marine.

    fast tracking Gnerals is primarily an internal mechanism within the individual branches, though the President ultimately decides whether or not to nominate a board approved officer.... and the Senate has to sign off on the nomination.
    like everything else when it comes to general officers, political pressure can and is applied by ranking civilians.. especially SecDef... to secure promotions and billets.
    ( promotion boards are not going to thwart the whims and will of SecDef or CinC.. or even ranking congresscritters)

    this particular case of fast-tracking is extremely fast... incredibly fast....without a doubt , this guy made friends with the right people at the right times.. both in uniform, and out.

    that said, he's obvisouly a very capable officer and I have no doubts he will serve this post honorably and with skill....he's a Marine afer all.
    Well, that was my point essentially. Soldier/Marine, he'll be fine. I understand the technicalities of Soldier, Marine, Sailor, Airmen.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Marine general chosen Joint Chiefs Chairman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, that was my point essentially. Soldier/Marine, he'll be fine.
    the Marine will be fine, yes.... but there's no Soldier involved here.

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