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That still does not detract from the fact that firearms killings are massively higher per capita in Switzerland than the UK due to their easier access to them. How much better still would those Swiss homicide stats look were that not the case ?

Having visited Switzerland its a very affluent and law abiding place. Crime stats across the board are extremely low whereas the US has the highest criminal incarceration rates in the world
 
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That still does not detract from the fact that firearms killings are massively higher per capita in Switzerland than the UK due to their easier access to them. How much better still would those Swiss homicide stats look were that not the case ?

Having visited Switzerland its a very affluent and law abiding place. Crime stats across the board are extremely low

So basically if someone is killed with a knife you don't care about them or their family, only if it's a gun, in other words, the US is worse then Russia because our firearm homicide rate is higher but intentional homicide is three times higher in Russia....

This is how shallow anti gunners are.

I would happily take the thirteen factor risk of being shot in exchange for half the chance of actually being killed
 
So basically if someone is killed with a knife you don't care about them or their family, only if it's a gun, in other words, the US is worse then Russia because our firearm homicide rate is higher but intentional homicide is three times higher in Russia....

This is how shallow anti gunners are.

I would happily take the thirteen factor risk of being shot in exchange for half the chance of actually being killed

Given you have a homicide rate that would shame many a banana republic and nearly three quarters of those involve a firearm you are hardly in a position to judge other countries. If you removed those firearms killings from your stats your homicide rates would be much in line with those of other developed nations
 
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Given you have a homicide rate that would shame many a banana republic and nearly three quarters of those involve a firearm you are hardly in a position to judge other countries. If you removed those firearms killings from your stats your homicide rates would be much in line with those of other developed nations

No our homicide rate would not shame a banana republic, there is few countries in South America outside of European protectorates with a homocide rate lower then ten. The US is 4.4 last I checked. My state is maybe 2. Which is not terribly bad. Our high rate of homicide comes from a cluster of really bad states (some of which resemble a banana republic really) with rates of 6 and 7, outside of the Deep South the rate is "high" if it pushes two.

So really you show lack of understanding outside of a few statistics you read out of some gu control groups press release
 
No our homicide rate would not shame a banana republic, there is few countries in South America outside of European protectorates with a homocide rate lower then ten. The US is 4.4 last I checked. My state is maybe 2. Which is not terribly bad. Our high rate of homicide comes from a cluster of really bad states (some of which resemble a banana republic really) with rates of 6 and 7, outside of the Deep South the rate is "high" if it pushes two.

So really you show lack of understanding outside of a few statistics you read out of some gu control groups press release

The US is 4.7 the average for most developed nations is around a quarter of that or less. Like I said if you took out the three quarters of your homicides comitted using firearms then your homicide rates would be somewhat similar. Its the easy access to guns that differentiates you from others and that makes your society that much more dangerous
 
Guns make killing far too easy as your nations own grim statistics amply illustrate

Yet in your country people resort to other means. Is someone wants another person dead, they will find a way.

Are you saying in England the murderer just has to work a bit harder?

What is England doing to reduce the murder by knives?
 
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Guns may be akin to an addiction for you but, but not for others


By all means voluntarily endanger yourself as much as you like, I'm sure every gun owner who has lost a relative to the gun he kept at home allegedly for defence has said the same as you.



Cop killing in the UK is rare. Here is the historic list so check for yourself

List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

cop killing in England was rare before you all had a gunbangasm
 
Yet in your country people resort to other means. Is someone wants another person dead, they will find a way.

Are you saying in England the murderer just has to work a bit harder?

What is England doing to reduce the murder by knives?

No I'm saying that our murder rate is nearly five times lower than yours because of your easy access to firearms
 
cop killing in England was rare before you all had a gunbangasm

Cop killing in England is rare period. You had 126 cops killed last year in the line of duty in your allegedly much less violent country and we had none. Indeed it has been neartly three years since any police officer was shot and killed here, by contrast your nation averages one fatal cop shooting per week ! :shock:
 
Cop killing in England is rare period. You had 126 cops killed last year in the line of duty in your allegedly much less violent country and we had none. Indeed it has been neartly three years since any police officer was shot and killed here, by contrast your nation averages one fatal cop shooting per week ! :shock:

you just don't get it

back before you Brits had a collective bed wetting over people owning pistols, you never had much in the way of cop killings. So your idiotic gun bans didn't change things
 
No I'm saying that our murder rate is nearly five times lower than yours because of your easy access to firearms

Which consists mainly of gang bangers shooting other gang bangers. Whoop de doo and good riddance.
 
you just don't get it

back before you Brits had a collective bed wetting over people owning pistols, you never had much in the way of cop killings. So your idiotic gun bans didn't change things

So saving lives is idiotic if it stops you playing at being Rambo or Dirty Harry ?

Yes I get it all right
 
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So saving lives is idiotic if it stops you playing at being Rambo or Dirty Harry ?

Yes I get it all right

I guess your diversions mean you know you have no answer

England didn't have much problems with violence even before you banned handguns

violence has become worse afar you all banned guns
 
I guess your diversions mean you know you have no answer

England didn't have much problems with violence even before you banned handguns

violence has become worse afar you all banned guns

BS violent crime is at is lowest here in over 30 years as has been linked multiple times now. Per capita we lock up five times fewer people and have more than 20 times fewer cops killed than in the in the US.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/886ec664-cb96-11e3-a934-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Zq3gyw4z
 
How the **** did this thread get derailed so we have to read about England? Who the **** cares. An innocent man was shot by a disgusting thug and died. Who the **** cares what's going on in England and why are we talking about it in this thread?
 
How the **** did this thread get derailed so we have to read about England? Who the **** cares. An innocent man was shot by a disgusting thug and died. Who the **** cares what's going on in England and why are we talking about it in this thread?

Perhaps you should ask CRUE CAB why he initially brought it up in post #6 then ?
 
Perhaps you should ask CRUE CAB why he initially brought it up in post #6 then ?

Yes and I see how you did everything in your power not to participate.

Your posts are obnoxious. If America is so bad, stay in England.
 
Yes and I see how you did everything in your power not to participate.

Your posts are obnoxious. If America is so bad, stay in England.

I didn't start the racist mud slinging, I just illustrated the bald facts which I too find obnoxious
 
How the **** did this thread get derailed so we have to read about England? Who the **** cares. An innocent man was shot by a disgusting thug and died. Who the **** cares what's going on in England and why are we talking about it in this thread?



flogger....
 
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