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Shot NYPD cop dies

Of course there won't be riots or protests because the perp was caught. There's no perception or reality of injustice relating to the crime. By all appearances justice will be served.

Morning Summerwind...:2wave

forgive me if I take not that your argument sounds an awful lot like the "Blacks can't be racist" memes....How do you know Justice will be served? What if he gets off on a technicality? Think that doesn't happen?

If you think the protests and rioting are because someone was shot, you're very limited in your knowledge.

Ofcourse they weren't....They were co opted for the anarchist, inequality, race baiting narratives...But by all means let's not point out the other side of these street interactions with Black crime in Urban cities...That would spoil making the criminal the victim wouldn't it?

The protests and rioting have been because of the perception that justice isn't served when a police officer murders, only when a non-police officer murders.

The protests have NOTHING to do with justice...
 
Just what did your Bobbies do while a member of your military was being hacked to death on the street?
Oh, yea. Wait for an armed officer to finally show up.
Now, we have gone tit for tat. Are you done?

How would them being armed have stopped that soldier being killed ?

It wouldn't
 
Of course there won't be riots or protests because the perp was caught. There's no perception or reality of injustice relating to the crime. By all appearances justice will be served. If you think the protests and rioting are because someone was shot, you're very limited in your knowledge. The protests and rioting have been because of the perception that justice isn't served when a police officer murders, only when a non-police officer murders.

Many people are ignorant regarding why there have been riots. Unsurprisingly most of them are also right-wingers.
 
Grieving over yet another tragic symptom like the taking of this officers life represents does nothing to address the causes and is ultimately an execise in futility given the lack of will to change anything..

Last chance...either get on topic, or I will report you.
 
Morning Summerwind...:2wave

forgive me if I take not that your argument sounds an awful lot like the "Blacks can't be racist" memes....How do you know Justice will be served? What if he gets off on a technicality? Think that doesn't happen?



Ofcourse they weren't....They were co opted for the anarchist, inequality, race baiting narratives...But by all means let's not point out the other side of these street interactions with Black crime in Urban cities...That would spoil making the criminal the victim wouldn't it?



The protests have NOTHING to do with justice...

This post belongs in the conspiracy theory forum. Must be a hardship to be so delusional.
 
Many people are ignorant regarding why there have been riots. Unsurprisingly most of them are also right-wingers.

Exactly "Unsurprising" as they actually seem to pride themselves on how ignorant they are.
 
How would them being armed have stopped that soldier being killed ?

It wouldn't
They at least would have been able to render aid quicker, or quite possible had they been armed the attack would never happened.
 
Will the left wing circle jerk and anti-gun garbage posts stop long enough for people to get on topic and comment on the death of this young man?
 
There will be no protests. In fact the scummer will be a hero in prison.
In some locations he'll likely be a hero outside of prison as well
 
They at least would have been able to render aid quicker, or quite possible had they been armed the attack would never happened.

They would have needed to have been present at the scene as it transpired and (be they armed or unarmed) they weren't.

There was no saving that soldier sadly
 
Many people are ignorant regarding why there have been riots. Unsurprisingly most of them are also right-wingers.

Yes yes, those poor poor poor people. I guess its perfectly understandable to you why they burn down their own city. Burn out local businesses and put people out on the street, all because of those nasty old policemen.
 
Morning Summerwind...:2wave

forgive me if I take not that your argument sounds an awful lot like the "Blacks can't be racist" memes....How do you know Justice will be served? What if he gets off on a technicality? Think that doesn't happen?

...

We are talking about public outrage. And when it comes to that it isn't about what we KNOW, it is about perception. And people perceive a cop killer will be punished. And given history, it is a well founded perception.

Yes, sometimes obviously guilty people get off due to a technicality. That sucks when it happens. Ironically, such technicalities are almost always due to police not doing their jobs properly.
 
We are talking about public outrage. And when it comes to that it isn't about what we KNOW, it is about perception. And people perceive a cop killer will be punished. And given history, it is a well founded perception.

Yes, sometimes obviously guilty people get off due to a technicality. That sucks when it happens. Ironically, such technicalities are almost always due to police not doing their jobs properly.

Well cops are not lawyers. They cant basically try the case in their minds prior to acting.
 
Will there be crowds in the street brandishing signs that say "All Lives Matter"? Will Sharpton be speaking out against the actions of this black criminal that killed Officer Moore? Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?

All lives do matter, but I wouldn't hold my breath for Sharpton showing up. Still, what is there for the DOJ to investigate? Clearly the officer's right to life was violated, and there was already an arrest and charges. So it's pretty much just emotional lashing out it seems more than any form of valid point on the system.

How long in this thread before someone stands up for the criminal in this story? I mean long arrest record, and appeared to have a gun in his waistband? I mean, "No probable cause" right? To these people that argue this crap, the officer 'got what he deserved' right? Disgusting....

And third officer killing in six months? But it's not a dangerous job though...:roll:

Again, not sure what this has to do with anything related to this case. Long arrest record, but how long is the conviction record and what does it really have to do with this. Did the cops know he had a long record before approaching? That would seem to be the only way that bit of information was relevant. They made a stop for what looked like could be a gun, turned out it was; that's the relevant part. And probable cause at this point is out the window because even if they didn't have probable cause, that doesn't give one the right to whip out a gun a shoot a cop.

And I don't think anyone has said that this is what the officer "deserved". I think this sort of emotional tantrum flung at an opposing philosophical viewpoint is meaningless and takes away from the true dynamics of crime and law that we must deal with in the inner cities and other areas with substantial crime rates. I don't think we should try to politicize this officer's death, we need to start examining the system and finding ways we can avoid violence, or at least fatalities, on both sides.
 
Well cops are not lawyers. They cant basically try the case in their minds prior to acting.

No, but the should know the rules they must operate by. In general I put the blame on their training and chain of command more than the individual officers.
 
No, but the should know the rules they must operate by. In general I put the blame on their training and chain of command more than the individual officers.
Still many times have to act in the blink of an eye. Training can only get you so far, then you have to have experience.
Experience you only get on the job.
Is anyone "perfect" at their job? From day one? Every day? All day?
 
Will the left wing circle jerk and anti-gun garbage posts stop long enough for people to get on topic and comment on the death of this young man?

That'll just lead to a global warming discussion.
 
Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?
And why would there be?

The shooter's in custody, and will likely be charged with the murder of a police officer & rigorously prosecuted.

There's no cover-up or lack of prosecution taking place here requiring DOJ intervention, that I can see.

That's a pretty off-hand remark.
 
It's not England anymore. It's western Pakistan.

More like Warsaw perhaps :cool:

Why did your people allow that?

EU diktat. Unlike some though they want to integrate and mostly work hard when they are here :)
Well!

I can't tell you how relieved I am to find that you fine gentleman understand the motivations of my father & grandparents, in knowing they "mostly work hard"!

Perhaps if my relatives 'work even harder', we can aspire to be such class-acts as yourselves!
 
Well!

I can't tell you how relieved I am to find that you fine gentleman understand the motivations of my father & grandparents, in knowing they "mostly work hard"!

Perhaps if my relatives 'work even harder', we can aspire to be such class-acts as yourselves!

Some immigrants are net contributers to our country and some are not. I'm sure you have similar issues over there. This thread has nothing to do with immigration
 
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