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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    OK then lets look at it from the perspective of police officers killed in the line of duty. Last year the US had 126 officer deaths and the UK had nil. What do you think is the major factor accounting for such a disparity ?
    But if gun ownership rates (legal or otherwise) were the key factor here one would expect to see more of a correlation. For example, Switzerland, where gun ownership is compulsory for men of conscriptable age, would (according to your logic) have a higher rate of officers being shot then the United States. On the contrary most common form of gun related death in Switzerland is wives killing abusive husbands with their own guns, and i cant say i will lose any sleep over that.

    The real issue in the U.S is social inequality.

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    - Taking of a human life without just cause. Protest to show senseless killings need to stop.

    - I see no reason to riot. All riots do is hurt innocent people.


    Hope your not one that believes the killing of this LEO was justified.
    Good Lord people would be protesting in the streets constantly. That's not why people have been protesting in the recent cop/suspect killings and abuse cases.

    And of course I dont believe it was justified.
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Will there be crowds in the street brandishing signs that say "All Lives Matter"? Will Sharpton be speaking out against the actions of this black criminal that killed Officer Moore? Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?





    How long in this thread before someone stands up for the criminal in this story? I mean long arrest record, and appeared to have a gun in his waistband? I mean, "No probable cause" right? To these people that argue this crap, the officer 'got what he deserved' right? Disgusting....

    And third officer killing in six months? But it's not a dangerous job though...
    Its a tragedy when any American dies at the fate of violence whether its a cop killing a civilian or a civilian killing a cop.
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Undoubtedly had the criminal not found it so easy to access a firearm in the first place this officer would still be alive today
    I see you mention no reason to blame or hold the criminal accountable. Let me guess, you're a liberal?
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're not? Will there be riots? My guess is NO....Do you know why?
    No one disputes what the suspect in this case was wrong. No one doubts that he will and should be found guilty and pay for his crime. Anyone with an ounce of decency thinks the officer deserved to be killed just because he was a cop.

    The fact that you can conflate what happened to the officer in your post and someone like Scott Walker, Levar Jones and Amadou Diallo (see below) only demonstrates you really don't understand what most people are upset about. Yes there are those at the extremes whose demands are unreasonable, but it seems simple why people are upset, example below:

    This man who reached for his wallet while sitting in front of his apartment and was shot at 41 times and hit 19 times and was killed becaue somone thought he had a gun. The 4 officers involved were all acquitted. There is the outrage.
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    But if gun ownership rates (legal or otherwise) were the key factor here one would expect to see more of a correlation. For example, Switzerland, where gun ownership is compulsory for men of conscriptable age, would (according to your logic) have a higher rate of officers being shot then the United States. On the contrary most common form of gun related death in Switzerland is wives killing abusive husbands with their own guns, and i cant say i will lose any sleep over that.

    The real issue in the U.S is social inequality.
    As a gun owner I'm going to interject and say that the culture of switzerland cannot be compared to the US. Gun crazy culture here in the US has run wild. I doubt you'll read many stories of children shooting Uzi's and killing themselves or others while there parents and certified instuctors look on...

    Boy shoots self in head as father and brother watch

    Girl loses control of Uzi kills instructor teaching her to shoot it.

    So while I support firearm ownership, gun crazy culture here in the US is insane and cannot in anyway be compared to the Swiss IMO.
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    As a gun owner I'm going to interject and say that the culture of switzerland cannot be compared to the US. Gun crazy culture here in the US has run wild. I doubt you'll read many stories of children shooting Uzi's and killing themselves or others while there parents and certified instuctors look on...

    Boy shoots self in head as father and brother watch

    Girl loses control of Uzi kills instructor teaching her to shoot it.

    So while I support firearm ownership, gun crazy culture here in the US is insane and cannot in anyway be compared to the Swiss IMO.
    As a gun owner you dont know your basic facts. When you remove psych issues and drugs, our firearm violence rate is comparable with western europe, except they dont have the rights we do.

    You made the claim that gun culture has "run wild". Care to back that up? Who defines that?

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good Lord people would be protesting in the streets constantly. That's not why people have been protesting in the recent cop/suspect killings and abuse cases.

    And of course I dont believe it was justified.
    and what was the reason then?

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and what was the reason then?
    The police abuse and killing of suspects....most of which they believe are racially based.
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The police abuse and killing of suspects....most of which they believe are racially based.
    thanks for your answer.

    So you don't believe the killing of the LEO was justified, why not protest? Doesn't his life matter? I can agree there are a few bad apples in law enforcement. Those LEO's should be held accountable.

    That said it is pathetic the lack of outcry for the outright murder of the NYPD LEO. There should be an outcry for the people who burned down businesses, destroyed private property, and looted others places.

    If "lives matter" it should not be held to well all lives matter.

    There is no excuse for the murder that took place.

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