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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    First do you acknowlege that with some 300 million guns in circulation you even have a problem ?


    Just ****ing answer the question. stop dodging.


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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

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    Quite a few Kalashnikovs eh ? Please cite an example ?
    Well, currently the major criminal gangs in the major Dutch cities are busy eliminating a bit of the competition and using kalashnikovs for that. Of course kalashnikovs bought in Belgium werre also used in France earlier this year in january. Same with the use of a kalashnikov in the attack against the jewish museum in Brussels last summer. ... I could go on, but these are a few examples just off the top of my head.

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Just ****ing answer the question. stop dodging.
    More gun control = less gun crime and there has been plenty posted on this thread confirming that already. Wrapping yourselves in flags and long since obsolete 18th century diktat doesn't change that fact

    Why do you guys need dragged kicking and screaming from A to B just to what is the blatantly obvious ?

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    More gun control = less gun crime and there has been plenty posted on this thread confirming that already. Wrapping yourselves in flags and long since obsolete 18th century diktat doesn't change that fact

    Why do you guys need dragged kicking and screaming from A to B just to what is the blatantly obvious ?


    Another dodge... what is "more control" what does that mean, specifically?

    What do you do with legal gun owners now?


    It's such a simple question that your ilk always seem to have trouble answering.


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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Well, currently the major criminal gangs in the major Dutch cities are busy eliminating a bit of the competition and using kalashnikovs for that. Of course kalashnikovs bought in Belgium werre also used in France earlier this year in january. Same with the use of a kalashnikov in the attack against the jewish museum in Brussels last summer. ... I could go on, but these are a few examples just off the top of my head.
    Islamic fundamentalism is hardly representative of criminal behaviour in Europe. Neither was the IRA nor ETTA

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Another dodge... what is "more control" what does that mean, specifically?

    What do you do with legal gun owners now?

    It's such a simple question that your ilk always seem to have trouble answering.
    What dodge ?

    Your criminals are getting their weapons via legal gun owners in the first place as no doubt did the perp in the OP. Tracking and monitoring firearms would at least be a start including far more stringent background checks. Making firearms considerably more expensive wouldn't be a bad idea either. You doubtless aren't even prepared to countenance even these very minor changes

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Your criminals are getting their weapons via legal gun owners in the first place as no doubt did the perp in the OP. Tracking and monitoring firearms would at least be a start including far more stringent background checks. Making firearms considerably more expensive wouldn't be a bad idea either. You doubtless aren't even prepared to countenance even these very minor changes


    Tracking and monitoring with background checks? we already do that. how do you want them to be "more stringent" specifically?

    "Making guns more expensive"? so it this so only rich white people like me can afford them?

    What would any of these things do to the current market especially the used and black (illegal) market (which are to completely separate things.)?


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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Tracking and monitoring with background checks? we already do that. how do you want them to be "more stringent" specifically?
    No you don't. Its far too easy for a criminal to get a gun from a legal gun owner with no questions asked. I suspect such transactions take place hundreds or maybe even thousands of times every day

    "Making guns more expensive"? so it this so only rich white people like me can afford them?
    Or that the criminals can't

    What would any of these things do to the current market especially the used and black (illegal) market (which are to completely separate things.)?
    Unless you cut off this market from its original legal sources by making those sources more expensive and more highly regulated then there will be nothing you can do. There clearly isn't the political will to do that so the killing will continue.

    The plain fact is you guys don't really want to countenance the implications of such a solution and are prepared to pay the price in blood for the continuance of this lethal fetish as long as that blood isn't yours. It is an attitude that is both morally and ethically repugnant
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    No you don't. Its far too easy for a criminal to get a gun from a legal gun owner with no questions asked. I suspect such transactions take place hundreds or maybe even thousands of times every day
    So no answer?

    I didn;t think so, just more speculation and fear peddling.

    Or that the criminals can't

    Because criminals ALWAYS pay! and when they do they pay RETAIL! /facepalm


    Unless you cut off this market from its original legal sources by making those sources more expensive and more highly regulated then there will be nothing you can do. There clearly isn't the political will to do that so the killing will continue.

    So you still can't answer "more regulated". you can't speak to your plan or idea of what to do with the millions of legal gun owners property. you speak in empty platitudes.


    The plain fact is you guys are prepared to pay the price in blood for the continuance of this lethal this fetish as long as that blood isn't yours





    As usual, your ilk, has no spine to say what they really want to do.


    BTW, you aren't anti-gun, you are very pro-gun because you are going to need government agents with guns to come after mine.... we all know you won't come, you'll send others.


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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So no answer?
    I didn;t think so, just more speculation and fear peddling.
    Am I wrong then ?

    Because criminals ALWAYS pay! and when they do they pay RETAIL! /facepalm
    I seriously doubt that given the criminal fraternity are normally from the less affluent part of the social spectrum

    So you still can't answer "more regulated". you can't speak to your plan or idea of what to do with the millions of legal gun owners property. you speak in empty platitudes.
    More regulated means less guns and far more stringent vetting of owners and those in their households too.

    As usual, your ilk, has no spine to say what they really want to do.
    As usual your ilk has no spine to admit why they really have these weapons, when some have arsenals that would defeat a Zulu onslaught. How great must be your personal 'inadequacies' that you need these sorts of compensations

    BTW, you aren't anti-gun, you are very pro-gun because you are going to need government agents with guns to come after mine.... we all know you won't come, you'll send others.
    Uh huh....

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