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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes yes yes of course its not a weapon its just a 'tool' for moving little pieces of lead from place to place at very high velocity ! Unfortunately people just get in the way of them sometimes
    Who said it wasn't a weapon? No one. A weapon is a tool however. It has no life of its own. It cannot shoot itself. It cannot move itself. A PERSON has to be behind a gun for it to do ANYTHING. When are you going to start blaming people and not an inanimate object?
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Undoubtedly had the criminal not found it so easy to access a firearm in the first place this officer would still be alive today
    Your thinking is flawed. The guy that shot the cop was a serial felon. He had already served time for attempted murder in 2000 when he shot at a man he just robbed at gun point. The group of s***holes he runs with makes it real easy to obtain a gun. The criminal doesn't give a s*** about who he hurts or how many laws he has to break to get what he wants. A criminal mind will steal a gun if that is what he needs and kill someone in the process to get it. Gun owners who lock their arms up and keep their ammunition stored separately are victims of theft from criminals like this piece of crap.

    My interest is wanting to find out if Demetrius Blackwell ever had a daddy around to teach him how to be a real man. I'm wondering the same thing about the 4 they arrested in Mississippi over the weekend that killed the two cops. I know all the officers that were killed had daddies that did.

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Your thinking is flawed. The guy that shot the cop was a serial felon. He had already served time for attempted murder in 2000 when he shot at a man he just robbed at gun point.
    Yet despite that he could still access a weapon easily

    The group of s***holes he runs with makes it real easy to obtain a gun.
    Either that or he merely sent a friend or relative out to quite legally buy one for him under their name

    The criminal doesn't give a s*** about who he hurts or how many laws he has to break to get what he wants.
    And a gun makes that so much easier for him

    A criminal mind will steal a gun if that is what he needs and kill someone in the process to get it.
    Oh its far simpler than that as I already explained

    Gun owners who lock their arms up and keep their ammunition stored separately are victims of theft from criminals like this piece of crap.
    I seriously doubt that is how most criminals acquire their firearms when they can acquire them far more safely via a legal third party. Once the serial number is filed off afterwards who's to know where the gun came from or what it was used for ?

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yet despite that he could still access a weapon easily



    Either that or he merely sent a friend or relative out to quite legally buy one for him under their name



    And a gun makes that so much easier for him



    Oh its far simpler than that as I already explained



    I seriously doubt that is how most criminals acquire their firearms when they can acquire them far more safely via a legal third party. Once the serial number is filed off afterwards who's to know where the gun came from or what it was used for ?
    ABOUT 1.4 MILLION GUNS STOLEN DURING HOUSEHOLD BURGLARIES
    AND OTHER PROPERTY CRIMES FROM 2005 THROUGH 2010

    And that is relatively old stats.

    1.4 million guns in the wrong hands can do a lot of damage. But isn't that the intent of a criminal mind?

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fshbopc0510pr.cfm

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    ABOUT 1.4 MILLION GUNS STOLEN DURING HOUSEHOLD BURGLARIES
    AND OTHER PROPERTY CRIMES FROM 2005 THROUGH 2010

    And that is relatively old stats.

    1.4 million guns in the wrong hands can do a lot of damage. But isn't that the intent of a criminal mind?

    Bureau of Justice Statistics Firearms Stolen during Household Burglaries and Other Property Crimes, 2005-2010
    I don't doubt that may well be true, but when its far easier and safer to acquire them via legal third parties I'd wager this 1.4 million figure is but a drop in the bucket by comparison

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yet despite that he could still access a weapon easily



    Either that or he merely sent a friend or relative out to quite legally buy one for him under their name



    And a gun makes that so much easier for him



    Oh its far simpler than that as I already explained



    I seriously doubt that is how most criminals acquire their firearms when they can acquire them far more safely via a legal third party. Once the serial number is filed off afterwards who's to know where the gun came from or what it was used for ?
    OMG!!!

    You can't legally buy a gun for someone else!! That is a straw purchase and is a felony!!!
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I don't doubt that may well be true, but when its far easier and safer to acquire them via legal third parties I'd wager this 1.4 million figure is but a drop in the bucket by comparison
    That is a felony. It ISNT legal! Dude. If you are going to trash the 2a...at least learn the existing legislation. Oh. And the laws differ in all 50 states. But what you just described is a felony in all states.

    Do you even know how the purchase of a firearm works?
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I had not known that southern states had so many "gang bangers" until I read your ever so informative comment

    Murder rates per 100,000 population
    Strawman argument, but there are gang bangers in every state.

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    For you protecting guns is far more important than protecting lives. Its the casual indifference to the consequences of that mindset in the face of all the data that is so incomprehensible
    nonsense. for you your goal is to punish people who don't buy into your irrational fear of armed citizens. People who are not willing to make the defense of themselves and their families a personal duty are cowards and those who are willing to outsource that duty to the government really aren't men

    and lets get back to the idiotic claim that if the USA had adopted the silly British bedwetting after Dunblane, a man willing to murder a police officer couldn't have done so
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    That is a felony. It ISNT legal! Dude. If you are going to trash the 2a...at least learn the existing legislation. Oh. And the laws differ in all 50 states. But what you just described is a felony in all states.

    Do you even know how the purchase of a firearm works?
    His argument is that if we banned all handguns and jailed anyone who did not comply, there is no way someone with a 5 foot long rap sheet (and who isn't concerned about paying the price for committing first degree murder of a cop) could have obtained a pistol. Look at the drug laws-we have completely banned crack, cocaine, and heroin and jail anyone caught with that stuff. as a result, no one can buy or smoke crack in the USA

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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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