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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    your fear is your problem, not mine
    Of course its yours. I do not have to fear being shot but you do

    hoplophobes will always try to blame criminal activity on legal gun owners.
    Criminals often buy guns via non criminal friends or girlfriends who acquired them for them and did so by quite legally exercising their 'rights' in the first place . How else do you think they got them ?

    Then where is your call for a ban on cars doing more than 25mph?

    or buckets of water?

    Football?

    Ladders? Stairs?

    swimming pools?

    beer?

    tobacco ?
    When you can tell the difference between what is an accident and what is an armed intent to violently kill perhaps ?

    Why no consistency?
    On the contrary I've been quite consistent

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post


    When you can tell the difference between what is an accident and what is an armed intent to violently kill perhaps ?
    Is it your belief that deaths in the US are not examined, investigated and that very thing not determined?

    If so, you would be 100% wrong.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Is it your belief that deaths in the US are not examined, investigated and that very thing not determined?

    If so, you would be 100% wrong.
    How you came to such a wayward interpretation of my post is a total mystery
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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    How you came to such a wayward interpretation of my post is a total mystery
    Lursa didn't interpret anything, it was a question to you, denoted by the "Is it your belief" in the very start of the sentence....So, maybe it is a total comprehension thing going on with you...Allow me to ask YOU a question also....

    HAS anyone forced you to own a gun, be around others that own a gun, or sanction owning a gun? If no, then as someone who believes in the freedom, indeed the right to own a gun in our country, I'd say your pretty safe from any trouble stemming from guns...Your fear is irrational, and maybe needs some professional guidance....
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    HAS anyone forced you to own a gun, be around others that own a gun, or sanction owning a gun? If no, then as someone who believes in the freedom, indeed the right to own a gun in our country, I'd say your pretty safe from any trouble stemming from guns...Your fear is irrational, and maybe needs some professional guidance....
    Well I have fired and been fired at during my armed service if that counts

    The ability to kill and therefore in turn be killed with much greater facility is not an interpretation of freedom that anyone outwith the US would recognise or want to indulge. Your nations example is the obvious reason why. Disguising your armed paranoid fears of each other by calling it freedom is therefore quite laughable frankly

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    It's been pointed out to you time and time again that the vast majority of gun deaths/injury occur in very specific high crime areas. And that such incidents are very low in the rest of the country. Yet you ignored this and *choose* to post....whether you understand it or not I cant tell....that this rate of harm occurs evenly everywhere.

    It does not. The example someone gave you were of many things that could be hazardous yet they are common and people dont demand they be removed from the country. And guns harm less people, outside of those criminals inside high crime areas, than pools, cars, dogs, etc.

    So my question was, do you think that *we* dont know the circumstances between the gun incidents in this country? We do...it is you that cant seem to understand it.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's been pointed out to you time and time again that the vast majority of gun deaths/injury occur in very specific high crime areas. And that such incidents are very low in the rest of the country. Yet you ignored this and *choose* to post....whether you understand it or not I cant tell....that this rate of harm occurs evenly everywhere.
    And its been pointed out to you multiple times that the US is not the only nation with high crime areas. Its just that our criminals find it far harder to kill either each other or innocent victims for that matter because its so difficult to get a gun

    It does not. The example someone gave you were of many things that could be hazardous yet they are common and people dont demand they be removed from the country. And guns harm less people, outside of those criminals inside high crime areas, than pools, cars, dogs, etc.
    Yes and old age kills even more every year too ! Look up the difference between accidental death and intentional killing then get back to me

    So my question was, do you think that *we* dont know the circumstances between the gun incidents in this country? We do...it is you that cant seem to understand it.
    Oh you know all right. Your desperation to protect guns first and people second (at whatever cost that represents to your society in lives lost) is quite apparent

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And its been pointed out to you multiple times that the US is not the only nation with high crime areas. Its just that our criminals find it far harder to kill either each other or innocent victims for that matter because its so difficult to get a gun

    Yes and old age kills even more every year too ! Look up the difference between accidental death and intentional killing then get back to me

    Oh you know all right. Your desperation to protect guns first and people second (at whatever cost that represents to your society in lives lost) is quite apparent

    You are the one that doesnt understand the difference between accidental and intentional. No one cares if criminals kill each other....our goal would be to change those areas into safer, low crime, more socio-economically successful areas and then the gun issue will recede there just like it is not an issue ANYWHERE else in the country.


    The foolishness that does not RESPECT humans enough to allow them to protect themselves but instead be dependent on others is what is very sad. Treat people like children and they never advance beyond that. THe more responsibility you take from people, the less they will ever initiate to take for themselves. America was founded on people who could and wanted to take care of themselves.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post

    You are the one that doesnt understand the difference between accidental and intentional. No one cares if criminals kill each other....our goal would be to change those areas into safer, low crime, more socio-economically successful areas and then the gun issue will recede there just like it is not an issue ANYWHERE else in the country.
    And how are you ever going to do that when all the criminal has to do in order to perpetuate his criminality is send out a non criminal friend or relative to buy a gun for him ?

    The foolishness that does not RESPECT humans enough to allow them to protect themselves but instead be dependent on others is what is very sad.
    Our relative gun death rates are the clear indicators of who the foolish are and I know you don't like looking at those

    Treat people like children and they never advance beyond that. THe more responsibility you take from people, the less they will ever initiate to take for themselves. America was founded on people who could and wanted to take care of themselves.
    What a weird perception you have of the world that you think that owning a gun makes you a more rounded and responsible person when by every measurable statistic it means the exact opposite.

    Gun deaths in children: Statistics show firearms endanger kids despite NRA safety programs.

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    Re: Shot NYPD cop dies

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And how are you ever going to do that when all the criminal has to do in order to perpetuate his criminality is send out a non criminal friend or relative to buy a gun for him ?
    Wow. It was pretty clear. You dont go after the guns, you FIX the socio-economic situations of the people and communities. That is the most constructive approach, and helps solve many socio-economic issues, not just gun issues. Boy are you myopic. No wonder you cant see big picture, including the diversity of conditions across a very large country.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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