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    Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids | Fox News

    It's (finally) official
    The GOP presidential field grew by two Monday as retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and former technology executive Carly Fiorina both announced they are running for president.
    Let the games begin.

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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids | Fox News

    It's (finally) official


    Let the games begin.
    I like what Fiorina says. If I were a voter I might vote for her. She goes in third place in my Republican candidate list. But unfortunately, the party will probably offer up Bush as the nominee and the same old status quo grind will continue.

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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    looks like the GOP is gonna have to replace the clown car with a clown bus
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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I like what Fiorina says. If I were a voter I might vote for her. She goes in third place in my Republican candidate list. But unfortunately, the party will probably offer up Bush as the nominee and the same old status quo grind will continue.
    Maybe after she runs the USA into the ground, our GDP will rebound 7% overnight?
    Stranger things have happened.......

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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids | Fox News

    It's (finally) official


    Let the games begin.
    Of the two, Ms. Fiorina has executive experience albeit all of it in the private sector. Whether she can craft a case that such experience would be applicable in governance (where the responsibilities and interests involved differ from those of running a major corporation) remains to be seen. Elements such as leadership, ability to align support, work within economic constraints, etc., likely are transferable. But governance is highly complex, so she will have real challenges to overcome. That her name recognition is low also increases the magnitude of challenge facing her.

    I don't believe she will wind up becoming a first-tier candidate. If she runs a capable campaign, she might increase prospects of a major Cabinet appointment were the GOP to win the Presidency. Such a position would offer her a springboard that would increase her chances of attaining an elected position i.e., in the Senate or as Governor, in the future.

    Carson, who has no leadership experience is not likely to be a major factor. His rhetoric might excite part of the primary electorate, but it won't be a substitute for his lack of relevant experience. When a candidate is widely seen as not being ready to govern the nation, there's virtually no chance that such a candidate will make it through the primary process, much less be elected in November. That's Carson's problem.

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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    I'm not real shocked that both Carson and Fiorina are running. But I doubt either has much of a chance.
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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Of the two, Ms. Fiorina has executive experience albeit all of it in the private sector. Whether she can craft a case that such experience would be applicable in governance (where the responsibilities and interests involved differ from those of running a major corporation) remains to be seen. Elements such as leadership, ability to align support, work within economic constraints, etc., likely are transferable. But governance is highly complex, so she will have real challenges to overcome. That her name recognition is low also increases the magnitude of challenge facing her.

    I don't believe she will wind up becoming a first-tier candidate. If she runs a capable campaign, she might increase prospects of a major Cabinet appointment were the GOP to win the Presidency. Such a position would offer her a springboard that would increase her chances of attaining an elected position i.e., in the Senate or as Governor, in the future.

    Carson, who has no leadership experience is not likely to be a major factor. His rhetoric might excite part of the primary electorate, but it won't be a substitute for his lack of relevant experience. When a candidate is widely seen as not being ready to govern the nation, there's virtually no chance that such a candidate will make it through the primary process, much less be elected in November. That's Carson's problem.
    You can tell this is an excellent analysis because I was thinking pretty much the same thing. As for the bolded - I think that is what Fiorina is actually running for.
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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Yes! Just what I want is Carly Fiorina to run our country into the ground the way she ran Hewlett-Packard into the ground. I hope she also remembers to give herself large pay raises while the rest of the country crashes and burns as she refuses to listen to her advisers! Sounds like an awesome candidate.
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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Maybe after she runs the USA into the ground, our GDP will rebound 7% overnight?
    Stranger things have happened.......
    You mean MORE into the ground than it already is ?

    The only candidate out there that has the capability of doing worse than Obamas done is Bernie Sanders.

    Talk about a Clown.

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    Re: Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You mean MORE into the ground than it already is ?

    The only candidate out there that has the capability of doing worse than Obamas done is Bernie Sanders.

    Talk about a Clown.

    Give me quantified metrics that characterize how the country has been run into the ground under Obama.

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