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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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Thats nice but the problem is that though we dont have to agree, the constitution protects us both. You are now blaming those protections for the actions of terrorists.

Nice try, but you are going to have to pound sand.

Actually I don't have to do that. Once more USC, you have no protections to act irresponsible. People have to pay to be irresponsible.
 
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Thats nice but the problem is that though we dont have to agree, the constitution protects us both. You are now blaming those protections for the actions of terrorists.

Nice try, but you are going to have to pound sand.

I think the pajama-boy collectivists in this country are feeling pouty because their Islamist pals, who share their hatred of America and its values, got a whipping. And to make it worse, an uppity Jew dared to say something that made them feel all icky!

The collectivists' lack of spine is showing itself. If these drones had been around on December 7, 1941, they'd be denouncing Americans as cowboys who, after having provoked the Japanese into violence, now wanted to overreact with more violence. As more evolved souls than the hoi polloi, they'd be calling for sensitivity toward Japanese culture and organizing workshops for anger management and grief counseling.
 
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Apparently you imagine that Justice Holmes' famous "crowded theater" example from Schenck applies to Ms. Geller's contest. How, exactly? Please tell us why, under the "clear and present danger" standard from Brandenburg v. Ohio, the speech she engaged in is not protected by the First Amendment.

Ms. Geller's freedom of speech does not depend on whether you think what was said is "irresponsible," or on whether you think it gained anything. Neither does anyone else's. Or maybe you think the First Amendment should be ignored whenever it allows speech that peeves you. If so, your view is thoroughly illiberal.

It actually doesn't peeve me, I'm an atheist, so I don't care. But for whom it does matter, it escapes me why Geller insists that she must infringe upon the sensitivities of an entire (mighty large I'd point out) group of people to demonstrate to all that she's an American, and she has her rights. She's actually a selfish and bigoted bitch that put herself and others, not just the phsycos involved in her contest, at risk of injury or death. What we need is for all the defenders of free speech to boycott her, criticise her and make it clear to her that her gratuitous ridicule of another religions prophet is reprehensible. That said, I am not in favor of any government suppression of her speech. She may continue until she's dead, has caused the death of others or whatever it is that she's pursuing with her quest.
 
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Can you tell me how that security guard would be laying wounded at present were it not for Geller's little immature and provocative exercise the other day.

I can't think of a thing. Last I checked words dont cause injuries guy.
 
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Actually I don't have to do that. Once more USC, you have no protections to act irresponsible. People have to pay to be irresponsible.

So if terrorists declare that anyone who is Christian or reads a newspaper is subject to execution, the people who do/are therefore are responsible if a terrorist kills them?

Im really loving your interpretation of liberty.
 
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I think the pajama-boy collectivists in this country are feeling pouty because their Islamist pals, who share their hatred of America and its values, got a whipping. And to make it worse, an uppity Jew dared to say something that made them feel all icky!

The collectivists' lack of spine is showing itself. If these drones had been around on December 7, 1941, they'd be denouncing Americans as cowboys who, after having provoked the Japanese into violence, now wanted to overreact with more violence. As more evolved souls than the hoi polloi, they'd be calling for sensitivity toward Japanese culture and organizing workshops for anger management and grief counseling.

I have no doubt and Im disgusted. These chumps have no spine, no integrity, and no convictions.

Events like this really bring it out.
 
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It actually doesn't peeve me, I'm an atheist, so I don't care. But for whom it does matter, it escapes me why Geller insists that she must infringe upon the sensitivities of an entire (mighty large I'd point out) group of people to demonstrate to all that she's an American, and she has her rights. She's actually a selfish and bigoted bitch that put herself and others, not just the phsycos involved in her contest, at risk of injury or death. What we need is for all the defenders of free speech to boycott her, criticise her and make it clear to her that her gratuitous ridicule of another religions prophet is reprehensible. That said, I am not in favor of any government suppression of her speech. She may continue until she's dead, has caused the death of others or whatever it is that she's pursuing with her quest.

She has the right to say what she did, the terrorists do not have the right to do what they did.

This isn't a hard concept to understand.
 
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Leftists lack a basic understanding of the constitution (except in how to exploit it to further their goals), and so its always amusing to hear them try to spin together explanations, its almost superstitious, really.

The "education" most of them have consists mostly of collectivist drivel dispensed by MSNBC or some dopey late-night TV comedian, sprinkled with some dross about how awful America is that they saw in an urban throwaway paper at the bong shop. The Commie-in-Chief has contempt for both this country and its constitution, just as his acolytes do. Mr. Obama's main interested in the Constitution is how best to evade it. Not surprisingly, his new Attorney General has openly admitted her intent to ignore the very Constitution she swore to uphold.

Leftists don't like the First Amendment any better than they like the Second.
 
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Nimby if freedom scares you, you are free to pursue other avenues.

Looks like you already may have.

Since Freedom has Never scared me US Conservative, as you also accuse so many others you assign Leftie names, this would simply be more of your False-Equivalency--to put it nicely .
 
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The dumb bitch in Garland was exercising her freedom irresponsibly and a man has been injured because of it, thankfully it wasn't any worse. Those of you hoping for a Charlie Hibdo redux in America will have to continue to encourage Geller.

Dude, you need to back off and stop insinuating that I or anyone else WANTS people to be slaughtered by jihadists.
 
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It actually doesn't peeve me, I'm an atheist, so I don't care. But for whom it does matter, it escapes me why Geller insists that she must infringe upon the sensitivities of an entire (mighty large I'd point out) group of people to demonstrate to all that she's an American, and she has her rights. She's actually a selfish and bigoted bitch that put herself and others, not just the phsycos involved in her contest, at risk of injury or death. What we need is for all the defenders of free speech to boycott her, criticise her and make it clear to her that her gratuitous ridicule of another religions prophet is reprehensible. That said, I am not in favor of any government suppression of her speech. She may continue until she's dead, has caused the death of others or whatever it is that she's pursuing with her quest.

I notice you could not explain how any speech she engaged in was not protected under the Brandenburg standard. Whether her speech peeves you does not determine her freedom to speak.
 
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She has the right to say what she did, the terrorists do not have the right to do what they did.

This isn't a hard concept to understand.

This is simply amazing. Montecresto has said that for about the umpteeenth zillionth time yet you don't seem to understand that.
 
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I think the pajama-boy collectivists in this country are feeling pouty because their Islamist pals, who share their hatred of America and its values, got a whipping. And to make it worse, an uppity Jew dared to say something that made them feel all icky!

The collectivists' lack of spine is showing itself. If these drones had been around on December 7, 1941, they'd be denouncing Americans as cowboys who, after having provoked the Japanese into violence, now wanted to overreact with more violence. As more evolved souls than the hoi polloi, they'd be calling for sensitivity toward Japanese culture and organizing workshops for anger management and grief counseling.

Except it would be the GOP Isolationist Collectivists you'd be talking about in the 1930s who behaved EXACTLY as you accused current liberals. Not to mention the GOPs in Congress who actively supported Hitler and Germany in the 1930s. So much for YER rewrite .
 
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Except it would be the GOP Isolationist Collectivists you'd be talking about in the 1930s who behaved EXACTLY as you accused current liberals. Not to mention the GOPs in Congress who actively supported Hitler and Germany in the 1930s. So much for YER rewrite .

Nimby, your historical knowledge is lacking. Hitler was a progressive and quite popular here with progressives until he dared to attack stalin-which lefties were not happy about.
 
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Dude, you need to back off and stop insinuating that I or anyone else WANTS people to be slaughtered by jihadists.

Then call for restraint and responsibility. Otherwise your interest in Geller's "right" to gratuitously provoke an entire religious group is more important to you then human life.
 
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Nimby, your historical knowledge is lacking. Hitler was a progressive and quite popular here with progressives until he dared to attack stalin-which lefties were not happy about.

Rightie statists comparing both Hitler and Stalin to today's progressives is just another blatant irrational lie (BIL) from the Nixon deck, US Conservative.

Settled history is the FACT that GOP Senators and House members actively worked with Hitler and the Nazis in the 1930s. One of them has a son and a grandson who became Presidents of the USA .
 
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I notice you could not explain how any speech she engaged in was not protected under the Brandenburg standard. Whether her speech peeves you does not determine her freedom to speak.

I've never denied the right of people to speak freely their bigotry, hate, and selfish stupidity. I've also been clear that I don't favor the government restricting her freedom as such, yet. I've been critical of the need or wisdom of her to do such. I will tell you that I'm damn sure not interested in fighting the Muslim religion for that bitches right to color cartoon caricatures of Mohamed. She'll need the buffoons in her army for that.
 
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Dude, you need to back off and stop insinuating that I or anyone else WANTS people to be slaughtered by jihadists.

And you need to back off saying that Geller's garbage won't get people slaughtered .
 
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Then call for restraint and responsibility. Otherwise your interest in Geller's "right" to gratuitously provoke an entire religious group is more important to you then human life.

Im shocked you want to silence a dissenting viewpoint. :lol:

The problem isnt Geller, its a group that thinks violence is acceptable.

If you disagree, maybe the US isn't the country for you?
 
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Rightie statists comparing both Hitler and Stalin to today's progressives is just another blatant irrational lie (BIL) from the Nixon deck, US Conservative.

Settled history is the FACT that GOP Senators and House members actively worked with Hitler and the Nazis in the 1930s. One of them has a son and a grandson who became Presidents of the USA .

Who was the president in the 30's and 40's?
 
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