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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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"When people prefer to focus on the motives of the victims rather than on the motives of the attackers, they will ignore the single most important matter: that an art exhibition, or free speech, has been targeted".

Outstandingly timed quote.
 
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Are you saying there are more left-wing militias in the USA than right-wing militias? :lamo
You may want to rethink whose thinking you are calling completely and mind-numbingly ignorant--though I'm not saying that about you--just sayin .

There are more ISLAMIC terrorists than any other kind. This isn't a left-right thing. It's a holy war.
 
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Are you sure YER going to stick with that story of having a massive amount of security?

And who should be paying for that security if it was so massive?

Why should cash-strapped cities be footing the bill for far right-wingers who are--are you ready--anti-government ?

I didn't put words in your mouth. It's a question for you to answer. So what's your answer?

I completely support her (and anyone's) right to make fun of any religion. This didn't come close AT ALL to a mass murder because they had a massive amount of security. Charlie Hebdo had none.
 
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The shooters were there because of the insensitivity of ignorant bigots seeking the entertainment value of offending an entire group of people that they already hate. Irresponsible ass holes. If they keep colouring their cartoons, we'll likely see more of this.

More dead terrorists? Great.
 
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Sorry -- I really don't understand people who care about the feelings of terrorists.

As I don't understand those people who consider all Muslims to be terrorists. Other then the fact that we have our share of bigots here in America.
 
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Are you sure YER going to stick with that story of having a massive amount of security?

And who should be paying for that security if it was so massive?

Why should cash-strapped cities be footing the bill for far right-wingers who are--are you ready--anti-government ?

Pamela Geller's group paid for their own extra security.
 
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As I don't understand those people who consider all Muslims to be terrorists. Other then the fact that we have our share of bigots here in America.

Who does?
 
NIMBY --- you say that you do NOT believe that making fun of religion should be illegal across the board. You say it's "the way" Pamela Geller did it.

So give me a scenario where making fun of Islam is done the "right way".
 
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But the majority, the huge majority of Muslims are not monsters.
Tat really doesn't need repeating. Everyone in the world understands that not all Muslims are terrorists.
That there are idiots burning books, idiots destroying holy sites, etc. etc. etc. does not say anything about the right of the hundreds of millions non-terrorists from complaining about insulting images of their prophet. You keep stating things about terrorists (who have indeed lost the right to complain about anything) but all the non-terrorists have rights too. Now we may not have to do anything with that but let's not pretend we are doing this to protect the right of free speech. We do this to protect the right of thumbing our nose at the feelings of others, which is fine if you want to do that, but let us be honest about it.
Your feelings may have been hurt on this board, or elsewhere, many times but I doubt you would murder anyone as a consequence. That's because we are rational, educated, civilized human beings who understand criticism and mockery have their place in our culture, a freedom not all that long available in human history.
If someone insults the United States (as a foreigner) or has criticism of the USA as an American he/she will be attacked with fervor. And that criticism can be almost very extreme and very vitriolic. That is something that seems to be the norm.
In fact we see a great deal of criticism of the USA on these boards but no one's life will ever be in danger.
 
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Who does?

You for certain as you just accused all Muslims of being terrorists. If you think you need to offend the sensibilities of all Muslims, then join the sophomores at Geller's events and color your own cartoon.
 
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Not sure what the problem is here, Kobie. You haven't seen or read a thing of hers, but you know whats shes all about. How is that tolerant?

When did I say that? In fact, I said exactly the opposite. Why do you continue to make stuff up?
 
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You for certain as you just accused all Muslims of being terrorists. If you think you need to offend the sensibilities of all Muslims, then join the sophomores at Geller's events and color your own cartoon.

Um...where did I accuse all Muslims of being terrorists?
 
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I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.

Kobie, this thread is about an Islamic terrorist attack by ISIS on US soil, and a woman whos life is now on the line for exercising her rights, I dont think thats funny, but its your right to joke.
 
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Why should we listen to you declare what all Americans should do? Climb down off your high horse. Do you need to have the wax cleaned out of your ears. Nobody has claimed that Geller doesn't have a right to speak her hate. But people have criticised the value of it and pointed out that she has gratuitously offended a religion, and her only pay check is her satisfaction of having provoked a group which she hates. Her actions also drew violence into the Dallas suburb. But hey, every bodies talking about her, Fox News is drooling over her, just like you, so I guess that's her advantage as well.
This isn't about me.
 
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Kobie, this thread is about an Islamic terrorist attack by ISIS on US soil, and a woman whos life is now on the line for exercising her rights, I dont think thats funny, but its your right to joke.

I'm not particularly concerned with your opinion.
 
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Look at this tweet from the AP....

The Associated Press
@AP
Pamela Geller says she has no regrets about Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest that ended in 2 deaths

I mean, seriously? The deaths of WHO exactly, AP? Innocent people?

Also ... I wonder if the AP writes "Our Lord Jesus Christ" or "Jehovah God".

Gotta love the media doing its part.

In about a week, gruberites are gonna know two things-Pam Geller bad, two people died.

Who knows whats after that-maybe "terrorists lives matter" rallies?
 
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Are you sure YER going to stick with that story of having a massive amount of security?

And who should be paying for that security if it was so massive?

Why should cash-strapped cities be footing the bill for far right-wingers who are--are you ready--anti-government ?

Those damn far right wingers with their far right wing free speech crap.
 
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So you believe they are inciting violence by drawing cartoons of Muhammad? What else incites extremist Muslims to be violent?

You knowing how to read and write. And whats with all this "driving" business?
 
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Only two guys attacked in this specific incident though... and that is all that is being discussed.
Then why did you say "Two guys out of a billion"? Are there a billion Muslims in the US?
I never said that she doesn't have the right... I said that specifically targeting people that will act violently and that will kill innocent people is reckless and stupid.
Right. You are being intimidated and that's how the Islamists want you to react. They will become ever more bold because Americans will turn on each other, fearful of what the Islamists may do next.
 
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Kobie, this thread is about an Islamic terrorist attack by ISIS on US soil, and a woman whos life is now on the line for exercising her rights, I dont think thats funny, but its your right to joke.

So were these guys on the payroll for ISIS or were they just poor desperate souls that happened by some websites?
 
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This isn't about me.

You always seem to think you know what Americans should do. Stop making it about you and it won't be about you. How about the meat of the post you quoted but didn't address.
 
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Pamela Geller's group paid for their own extra security.

And the policemen--and the aftermath--who paid for that ?
 
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In post 1099!

Nope. The terrorists were the ones who were offended and, therefore, took action against the "infidels". I couldn't care less about the feelers of a terrorist. Terrorists =/= all Muslims.
 
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