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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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You can't kill a rat until it comes out of it's nest. Just shot one today. Smoked em out....
These asswipes were a bomb waiting to go off. I suppose we should have given them more rope to commit a huge loss of life?

The best therapy as I see it, are dead criminals, especially those with radical ideas.

Why don't you step up, act like a real American and praise the officer for a fine job and a damn good shoot? You got the balls for that?

Oh wait, you live in anti-gun, pacifist haven, NZ. I should have known better than to ask.

:lol: You are funny...
 
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It smokes out the radical to actively seek out and shoot innocent people... and you love it? What is your ****ing problem man... holy ****, go to therapy fast.

Radical Muslims attack to murder the law abiding and someone else needs therapy?

Wow...
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064595603 said:
Radical Muslims attack to murder the law abiding and someone else needs therapy?

Wow...

If you can't keep the context of the comment then I understand why you are confused... it's OK, don't worry about it and wallow in ignorance.
 
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Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.
Trying to barge into a building guns blazing is not what most of think of when we think of criticism
 
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Trying to barge into a building guns blazing is not what most of think of when we think of criticism

How obtuse can you be?

People are claiming that criticizing this bigoted cartoon festival is somehow off base because of the First Amendment. The shooting is a completely unrelated issue.
 
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No but she certainly holds some blame in intentionally trying to provoke people just as I would be to blame if I was put a steak on my babies face with a pack of rabid dogs near by and they attacked.

So she will be charged with what crime? Being an infidel?

Inane and illogical comparison...





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You don't have to engage in any art..... to put a bullet in the head of a POS! Go Texas!

Kinda tells us all we need to know. And it's nothing good. It's certainly nothing to do with Wilde'rs/Geller's concepts of 'art'. I'm guessing bullets must be kinda sacred for you.
 
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If you can't keep the context of the comment then I understand why you are confused... it's OK, don't worry about it and wallow in ignorance.

The person that appears to be wallowing is you, and its not in reality.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.

Far and away no excuse for violence, but this was nothing more than a provocation, needless, senseless and ended with an injured security guard, but could have been worse. Is this really worth the exercise of free speech to draw cartoons that offend the sensibilities of some. :roll:
 
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I've no issue with the content of the post except that 'art' wasn't any part of the equation. Polemics, yes. Controversy, yes. Provocation, yes. Art? Absolutely not.

But that's fine. You don't have to be engaging in fine art to not be a target for intolerant bigotry. In fact, you can be engaging in intolerant bigotry (as were Geller/De Wilde et al) and still not merit murderous attention.

I suppose you're right. Cartoons don't really qualify as art. But "Piss Christ"? Now that is art. The supporters of that fine work were certainly correct to say that it was an issue of free speech rights even if it did deliberately provoke a lot of people.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

. Is this really worth the exercise of free speech to draw cartoons that offend the sensibilities of some. :roll:

Yes, it is.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064595771 said:
So she will be charged with what crime? Being an infidel?

Inane and illogical comparison...

I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame. Learn to read.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

Yes, it is.

I'd like to be there when you suggested that to the security guards family, lol.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

I suppose you're right. Cartoons don't really qualify as art. But "Piss Christ"? Now that is art. The supporters of that fine work were certainly correct to say that it was an issue of free speech rights even if it did deliberately provoke a lot of people.

That seems like a fairly valid art-work to me. Art is about ideas, not about toeing a rhetorical line. What's your point? Twenty-eight years ago, that art was astonishing. The fact that Geller's exhibition wasn't anything to do with artistic expression, and everything to do with creating controversy, is neither here nor there. It still wasn't a valid target for suicide bombs or sharp-shooters. I'm still inordinately glad the attackers didn't get the opportunity to kill more 'heretics'.
 
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Far and away no excuse for violence, but this was nothing more than a provocation, needless, senseless and ended with an injured security guard, but could have been worse. Is this really worth the exercise of free speech to draw cartoons that offend the sensibilities of some. :roll:
To the individuals who participated, yes.

Myself personally, I wouldn't bother, but then I can't draw worth a damn. Assuming I could draw, I probably wouldn't bother going for the caricature of a religious symbol, simply because it's not really my thing to try and upset people.

But it's not for you or I to say whether something is "worth it" to someone else.

Although it's totally reasonable to criticize their choice...
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064595801 said:
The person that appears to be wallowing is you, and its not in reality.

Lets see if you can follow this, although we already know that you can't:

Originally Posted by MickeyW
Because it smokes out the radical scum to be shot dead. I'm Lovin it mannnn!

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
It smokes out the radical to actively seek out and shoot innocent people... and you love it? What is your ****ing problem man... holy ****, go to therapy fast.

Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ
Radical Muslims attack to murder the law abiding and someone else needs therapy?

Wow...

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
If you can't keep the context of the comment then I understand why you are confused... it's OK, don't worry about it and wallow in ignorance.

Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ
The person that appears to be wallowing is you, and its not in reality.
 
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I'd like to be there when you suggested that to the security guards family, lol.

I'm sure he agrees.
 
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To the individuals who participated, yes.

Myself personally, I wouldn't bother, but then I can't draw worth a damn. Assuming I could draw, I probably wouldn't bother going for the caricature of a religious symbol, simply because it's not really my thing to try and upset people.

But it's not for you or I to say whether something is "worth it" to someone else.

Although it's totally reasonable to criticize their choice...

A security guard was injured. This could have been far worse than it was. Anyway, yeah, in this forum, it is for me to say that just because I have a right to call you an asshole as an expression of free speech (besides being a violation of board rules) it's not expedient. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't gratuitously offend a Christian or a Muslim. This was senseless and didn't end well. But hey, the kiddos with their crayons exercised their free speech, yippee!
 
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I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame. Learn to read.

Petulant and puerile response; must have hit a nerve.

You stated she deserves some blame, so lets' see it. Two people died; what blame, because murder was attempted and two people were killed?

Did she coerce the Muslims to attempt murder and push them over the edge? Did she incite or propel them to pull the trigger?

Did she offend their, and apparently your, delicate sensibilities?
 
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That seems like a fairly valid art-work to me. Art is about ideas, not about toeing a rhetorical line. What's your point? Twenty-eight years ago, that art was astonishing. The fact that Geller's exhibition wasn't anything to do with artistic expression, and everything to do with creating controversy, is neither here nor there. It still wasn't a valid target for suicide bombs or sharp-shooters. I'm still inordinately glad the attackers didn't get the opportunity to kill more 'heretics'.

We're all familiar with the phenomenon among left wingers that any piece of trash is art if it confirms their ideology and the best work is not art if it doesn't confirm their ideology. So it is with people who are completely defined by their ideology.
 
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A security guard was injured. This could have been far worse than it was. Anyway, yeah, in this forum, it is for me to say that just because I have a right to call you an asshole as an expression of free speech (besides being a violation of board rules) it's not expedient. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't gratuitously offend a Christian or a Muslim. This was senseless and didn't end well. But hey, the kiddos with their crayons exercised their free speech, yippee!

You realize that depictions of Mohammed cartoon or otherwise carry the same punishment ( execution ) that being a Homosexual does.

Anyway, the real story is ISIS in the United States and their claim that this attack is just the first of many.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064595951 said:
Petulant and puerile response; must have hit a nerve.

You stated she deserves some blame, so lets' see it. Two people died; what blame, because murder was attempted and two people were killed?

Did she push the Muslims to attempt murder and push them over the edge? Did she incite or propel them to pull the trigger?

Did she offend their, and apparently your, delicate sensibilities?

Hit a nerve because you can't read? :lol:

I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame.

If a person knowingly does something that they know, and has in the past, specifically been targeted with violence and they do it anyway then they are partially to blame.

You see common sense and responsiblity as delicate sensibilities and I see them as reasonable responses.
 
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We're all familiar with the phenomenon among left wingers that any piece of trash is art if it confirms their ideology and the best work is not art if it doesn't confirm their ideology. So it is with people who are completely defined by their ideology.

We're all familiar with the fact that you consistently make up stupid nonsense about left wingers and use it to smear them.
 
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