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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Actually Christians are persecuted in virtually all muslim-majority countries, with maybe Malaysia and Indonesia as exceptions.

They do alright in Jordan.

We pump far more money into Saudi Arabia's coffers than anyone else via oil purchases and weapons sales, and I don't see Pam protesting that.
 
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No I just don't think its clever to insult mentally unstable people who have a history of killing others in the name of their sky god, I also just don't like people acting like complete wankers. End of the day mate everyone is welcome to an opinion but doesn't stop people punching you in the face when you insult them.

A lot of things aren't clever. But saying or doing things that other people find offensive is not the equivalent of trying to assisante someone. The latter is a crime, the former isn't.
 
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They do alright in Jordan.

We pump far more money into Saudi Arabia's coffers than anyone else via oil purchases and weapons sales, and I don't see Pam protesting that.

They wouldn't be able to open a new Church or practice their religion freely if they wanted to.

As for Geller, I'm actually inclined to think that she probably despises the Saudi's too; She's not really intellectually coherent, but I do think her hatred of all muslims is fairly consistent.
 
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A lot of things aren't clever. But saying or doing things that other people find offensive is not the equivalent of trying to assisante someone. The latter is a crime, the former isn't.

depends on which country you are in.
 
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A lot of things aren't clever. But saying or doing things that other people find offensive is not the equivalent of trying to assisante someone. The latter is a crime, the former isn't.

In this case it is as it's not like Islamic extremists have been keeping it a secret, If you host events like these you risk being attacked by some mentally unstable extremists. I just wish you could all take each other out like some sort of Darwin Battle Royale games.
 
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I stand behind the people's rights to be as bigoted and ignorant as they choose to be. (But I do secretly give a Mutley laugh when they get their eye blackened or ridiculed in social media.) That ol' "freedom of speech." Work's all kinds of ways.

 
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In this case it is as it's not like Islamic extremists have been keeping it a secret, If you host events like these you risk being attacked by some mentally unstable extremists. I just wish you could all take each other out like some sort of Darwin Battle Royale games.

By placing both sides at the same level you are apologizing for terrorism and intolerance.
 
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Last I checked his comment didn't specifically limit itself to the US.

You would like to live under a different system where free speech was comprehensively suppressed?
 
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Very much so.

how do you account for people there attending service on Sunday, holidays being observed, and in general, the fact they are appointed 2x as many parliamentary seats as their population statistics dictate? As I recall though, they are disallowed from proselytizing... the horror.
 
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By placing both sides at the same level you are apologizing for terrorism and intolerance.

No haven't said that however what I have said they are all a bunch of wankers. End of the day we all know that the murder is the worst sin however that doesn't excuse anyone who hosts an event just to insult people. Fact is their are millions of Muslims who would never harm you for drawing their prophet however you have just insulted them for no reason other than to prove a point.
 
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But who did the shooting?

The "free speech" discussion consisted of two parties -- the people drawing Muhammad, and people who mocked or criticized them. Don't change the subject.
 
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how do you account for people there attending service on Sunday, holidays being observed, and in general, the fact they are appointed 2x as many parliamentary seats as their population statistics dictate? As I recall though, they are disallowed from proselytizing... the horror.

How does any of that say anything different from what I said? You don't really know much about the world, do you?
 
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No haven't said that however what I have said they are all a bunch of wankers. End of the day we all know that the murder is the worst sin however that doesn't excuse anyone who hosts an event just to insult people. Fact is their are millions of Muslims who would never harm you for drawing their prophet however you have just insulted them for no reason other than to prove a point.

So there is also no excuse for anybody who says anything that is offensive to anybody else?

Sorry, but you are just an intellectual coward.
 
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You said they aren't free to exercise their religion.

They aren't. What would happen to somebody in Jordan who converted to Christianity you think? What would happen to somebody who tried to build a new church?
 
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So there is also no excuse for anybody who says anything that is offensive to anybody else?

Sorry, but you are just an intellectual coward.

To every action their is a reaction.

p.s As for the coward insult I really don't care as I am 100% sure I am twice the man you are ;).
 
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They aren't. What would happen to somebody in Jordan who converted to Christianity you think? What would happen to somebody who tried to build a new church?

Do you have evidence the sharia courts there have executed anyone in modern times for apostasy? Do you have links of denied church applications to the ministry/government agency/whatever they do ?
 
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Do you have evidence the sharia courts there have executed anyone in modern times for apostasy? Do you have links of denied church applications to the ministry/government agency/whatever they do ?

What sharia courts? We are talking about Jordanian law here.
 
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The first one is painfully ignorant. The claim is that every Muslim is a terrorist-in-waiting. The second is just factually incorrect. So is the third -- while attacks on Christians are a problem in some places, they're not everywhere, and tying all foreign aid to "Muslim countries" to such attacks is pretty dishonest.


#1 Interestingly, Geller isn't the only one who thinks that path to peace is to abandon Islam, so does this Muslim Cleric.
#2 CAIR has ties to Hamas, says the FBI.
#3 Your attempt to diminish the reality is noted. The number of Christians in the Middle East is plummeting as violence increases against them.
 
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