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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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You seem to make fun or question their rights. Rights you should be willing to fight for, not mock.

Link to the post, or stop wasting my time.

So mocking or criticizing someone is to deny their rights. That's an ... interesting take.
 
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Link to the post, or stop wasting my time.

So mocking or criticizing someone is to deny their rights. That's an ... interesting take.

Mocking or minimalizing or demonizing is the first step to taking. Just like with guns.
 
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Mocking or minimalizing or demonizing is the first step to taking. Just like with guns.

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That's an absurdly stupid point of view.
 
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Ah yes, pointing out that Pam Geller is an unrepentant bigot makes me the one who's truly hateful!

Since I haven't protested the building of a house of worship, headed up any hate groups, put anti-Muslim ads on NYC subway cars, or anything similar, I'd reckon I'm better in that regard than Pamela Geller, thanks.


Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

Here is Geller's subway ad:

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Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?
 
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Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

Here is Geller's subway ad:

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Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?

These ones were too.

MTA Forced to Print Anti-Islamic Ads on Buses, Subways | Observer

"Today's moderate is tomorrow's headline"? Slightly more objectionable.
 
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Really? Ask the European Jew of the 30s and 40s.

So anyone who is mocked has one foot on the train to Auschwitz. Well, didn't know of you'd double down on the nonsense, but you didn't disappoint.

Mocking or criticizing actions or rhetoric one finds offensive, objectionable or just plain stupid is just as much of an exercise in free speech as those actions or rhetoric. Using the Holocaust as a prop to attack those who exercise their own rights is piss-poor form.
 
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Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

Here is Geller's subway ad:

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Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?

The problem with Geller - apart from her lack of intellectual honesty and lack of taste in commercials - is that she is simply trying to turn the war against jihadi terrorism into a war against all muslims and against Islam as a religion. It is her right and prerogative to do that and to defend that view. But it is a distraction from the real fight (which should be fought in a much more sustained and remorseless way).
 
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When will people stop being such a bunch of James Blunts?
 
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When will people stop being such a bunch of James Blunts?

You got me there. Care to explain your profound thinking?
 
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Link to the post, or stop wasting my time.

So mocking or criticizing someone is to deny their rights. That's an ... interesting take.

Only when you are mocking or criticizing someone who is mocking and criticizing someone else.....

I know. Sounds crazy, huh?
 
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Out of curiosity, which of these ads do you think are not true?

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The first one is painfully ignorant. The claim is that every Muslim is a terrorist-in-waiting. The second is just factually incorrect. So is the third -- while attacks on Christians are a problem in some places, they're not everywhere, and tying all foreign aid to "Muslim countries" to such attacks is pretty dishonest.
 
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You got me there. Care to explain your profound thinking?

Just don't understand why people have to be such pricks to each other all the time. The event itself was designed to insult people and the gunmen obliged by acting like a bunch of pricks themselves, just don't see the point in any of it. I guess maybe if we stopped believing in sky magicians it could get better but at that point I am sure we as humans will find something else to focus our hate on.
 
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The first one is painfully ignorant. The claim is that every Muslim is a terrorist-in-waiting. The second is just factually incorrect. So is the third -- while attacks on Christians are a problem in some places, they're not everywhere, and tying all foreign aid to "Muslim countries" to such attacks is pretty dishonest.

Actually Christians are persecuted in virtually all muslim-majority countries, with maybe Malaysia and Indonesia as exceptions.
 
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Just out of curiosity, over the past 3 decades, has anyone kept a tally as to how many Christians have been killed by Muslims vs. How many Muslims have been killed by Christians?

That would be interesting to know.
 
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Just don't understand why people have to be such pricks to each other all the time. The event itself was designed to insult people and the gunmen obliged by acting like a bunch of pricks themselves, just don't see the point in any of it. I guess maybe if we stopped believing in sky magicians it could get better but at that point I am sure we as humans will find something else to focus our hate on.

I see. You are one of those who want to equate people having opinions that some find offensive with people trying to assassinate those having opinions they find offensive.
 
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So anyone who is mocked has one foot on the train to Auschwitz. Well, didn't know of you'd double down on the nonsense, but you didn't disappoint.

Mocking or criticizing actions or rhetoric one finds offensive, objectionable or just plain stupid is just as much of an exercise in free speech as those actions or rhetoric. Using the Holocaust as a prop to attack those who exercise their own rights is piss-poor form.
Don't try to turn this on those that exercise non violent free speech.
 
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Don't try to turn this on those that exercise non violent free speech.

Says the guy who claims that others who use non-violent free speech want to take away your rights.
 
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Just out of curiosity, over the past 3 decades, has anyone kept a tally as to how many Christians have been killed by Muslims vs. How many Muslims have been killed by Christians?

That would be interesting to know.

Killed in what context?

On the whole, the vast majority of people killed by jihadi terrorists are other moslems.
 
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I see. You are one of those who want to equate people having opinions that some find offensive with people trying to assassinate those having opinions they find offensive.

No I just don't think its clever to insult mentally unstable people who have a history of killing others in the name of their sky god, I also just don't like people acting like complete wankers. End of the day mate everyone is welcome to an opinion but doesn't stop people punching you in the face when you insult them.
 
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