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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Do you think a Woman walking around in a short skirt on the streets of Saudi Arabia would get ignored ?

    Or arrested ?
    Obviously, you are right in this example.

    But there are also more progressive countries (euro, predominately) that look aghast at our views & laws concerning prostitution, drugs, public nudity & the death penalty - so we do have to be careful about how & where we toss stones.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    in that case, some of us would still blame the violent extremists, and you guys would still blame the group holding the event.
    I don't debate people who misrepresent positions... I repeatedly said that the extremists are to blame for the violence. Care to change your statement or are we done?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Obviously, you are right in this example.

    But there are also more progressive countries (euro, predominately) that look aghast at our views & laws concerning prostitution, drugs, & the death penalty - so we do have to be careful about how & where we toss stones.
    Unfortunately for him that example is irrelevant to the discussion.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't debate liars... I repeatedly said that the extremists are to blame for the violence. Care to change your statement or are we done?
    awww.. you can lie about what i say, but i can't lie about what you say?... that's not very fair.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't debate liars... I repeatedly said that the extremists are to blame for the violence. Care to change your statement or are we done?
    C'mon, you know the racket. Even saying what Geller's group was doing was legal yet kinda prickish and that violent response was wrong means you're absolving the attackers.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree with that the point is that she not discussing religion she is purposely trying to piss people off. Her drawings are protected but it is still done to be offensive. That is all.
    What really puzzles me is how so called enlightened liberals/progressives worldwide, somehow think it morally ok for those at Charlie Hebdo to draw cartoons and be martyrs for the cause, but it's not ok for Pam Geller.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    read my words again... I said nothign of an "invitation for sex".. those are your words, not mine.

    insulting a religion is offensive, sure... but people are free to do so without fear of being killed or otherwise assaulted.

    there's nothign remotely close about the two for you.. others aren't having a difficult time comprehending the analogy... just the few that want so badly to show that these people had it coming to them.
    I never said they had it coming to them and what is "asking to be raped" when wearing a short skirt if not an invatation for sex that is refused by the female who is in turn raped? Your analogy makes even less sense now than it did before...

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    What really puzzles me is how so called enlightened liberals/progressives worldwide, somehow think it morally ok for those at Charlie Hebdo to draw cartoons and be martyrs for the cause, but it's not ok for Pam Geller.
    I think Charlie Hebdo was stupid to do what they did as well... nobody deserves to die and free speech should be protected but that does not make it any less stupid.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You have completely lost your mind.
    As if you could tell.

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    Nobody said anything of the sort. More blatant strawmen.
    Nope...more blatant head up ass syndrome by liberals.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    C'mon, you know the racket. Even saying what Geller's group was doing was legal yet kinda prickish and that violent response was wrong means you're absolving the attackers.
    Not at all. The two are separate. Doing something stupid, purposely drawing offensive pictures, is stupid and inciting violence. They are to blame for that but not for the violence... that is 100% the attackers fault. Putting a hand grenade in a childrens park is stupid especially if you know that there are people that want to pull the pin out there that will do it.

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