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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    My favorite coyote lure simulates the sound of an injured rabbit, and man does it bring them in. If I was worried about jihadists in my area I'd probably use cartoons and an elevated position. Better to draw them out then to wait and wonder.
    I understand that Geller has plans to hold another free speech event. In the words of Sarah Palin, it's time to reload

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No the cause is the combination of the cartoons and the radical freaks who held the event. The cartoons would not be there if it had not been for the event and the even was only there because of this bitch and her followers wanting to provoke the radicals.
    People draw cartoons about everything. One religion can't force someone to stop doing that.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    I understand that Geller has plans to hold another free speech event. In the words of Sarah Palin, it's time to reload
    Well is has been proven that:

    A) They are not going to change their minds
    B) They believe killing people who don't think like they do is not only their religious right but their duty

    Best to eliminate them first. As for the reloading, I recommend bacon grease for bullet lube. No virgins for them, send them straight to hell.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no she doesn't. If Bush supporters had come a gunning for someone who drew a picture of Bush looking like a chimp or the ass who posted a bill board that had OBL sodomizing Bush, would you claim that the BDS artist deserved having hit men gunning for him?

    Look, this is a free society. Those who get their panties in a wad over opinions they don't like need to deal with it. and if they react violently, they need to end up like those two scum bags in Texas did

    on a slab
    She most certainly deserves blame. Sorry but when the entire point of your "speech" is to provoke another group into committing a crime you deserve some culpability when people from that group are provoked.

    This does not mean that extremists who attacked the other extremists are in any way justified. They're not. But its' like a white supremacist walking through Compton in full KKK regalia shouting racial slurs, or an abortion clinic posting signs saying that "Jesus loves abortion". When you use your free speech for the sole purpose of pissing people off, then you assume some culpability for the actions you provoke.

    Just because someone is 100% in the wrong, doesn't mean that someone else can't be in the wrong as well.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    My favorite coyote lure simulates the sound of an injured rabbit, and man does it bring them in. If I was worried about jihadists in my area I'd probably use cartoons and an elevated position. Better to draw them out then to wait and wonder.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    She most certainly deserves blame. Sorry but when the entire point of your "speech" is to provoke another group into committing a crime you deserve some culpability when people from that group are provoked.
    Speech is often intended to provoke and, as we can see with the case of Islamic religious freaks, does carry some risk.

    There are those who feel it's safer not to 'provoke' Muslims, which is really not expecting much of them, while others like myself feel that free speech trumps any possible hurt feelings they may have.

    This does not mean that extremists who attacked the other extremists are in any way justified. They're not.
    No, they are not justified in anyway. No one should be shot at for expressing at opinion..
    But its' like a white supremacist walking through Compton in full KKK regalia shouting racial slurs, or an abortion clinic posting signs saying that "Jesus loves abortion". When you use your free speech for the sole purpose of pissing people off, then you assume some culpability for the actions you provoke.
    There always seems to be a "But" by those who are prepared to give away the right to free speech.
    Just because someone is 100% in the wrong, doesn't mean that someone else can't be in the wrong as well.
    Anyone who sets out to murder innocent people is 100% wrong, and that's where it ends.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why is it a terrific idea?
    Well there are two dead jihadists now.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    I understand that Geller has plans to hold another free speech event. In the words of Sarah Palin, it's time to reload
    Well, if that's the case we'll finally see what her fellow Americans are made of and where they stand. http://pamelageller.com/2015/05/isla...laughter.html/

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    We're all Americans & all for free speech, but this is striking me more as antagonism, baiting, and hate - rather than a legitimate free-speech issue.

    What the hay is the point in getting in the mud with Muslim extremists?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    wearing short skirts has been argued to be a justification of rape...the analogy fits this scenario pretty well.

    drawing Mohammed may incite anger in the same way a short skirt incites sexual thoughts.... neither justify an unlawful response, though... in both cases, the victim is 100% innocent of wrongdoing.
    This is childish reasoning.

    Someone wearing a short skirt isn't wearing the short skirt to taunt a rapist. They're wearing it she wants to wear it. They aren't comparable.

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