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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame. Learn to read.
    no she doesn't. If Bush supporters had come a gunning for someone who drew a picture of Bush looking like a chimp or the ass who posted a bill board that had OBL sodomizing Bush, would you claim that the BDS artist deserved having hit men gunning for him?

    Look, this is a free society. Those who get their panties in a wad over opinions they don't like need to deal with it. and if they react violently, they need to end up like those two scum bags in Texas did

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Just read this thread
    I don't recall seeing any post in this thread blaming the people drawing cartoons for being attacked.

    At most, they criticized them for doing something that taunts violent extremists. Not at all the same thing.

    But perhaps I missed some posts, so feel free to quote a few.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Good job. You somehow find moral equivalence between Christians and the ISIS attackers. You gotta love liberal thought processes
    Incorrect. I find equivalence of goal - namely, censoring speech.
    The Christians quite obviously went with the VASTLY more reasonable tactic of using the courts.
    The attackers (were they actually ISIS or did ISIS just claim so? I haven't been following very closely...) went with an attempt at brute force, and luckily did very little harm before a vastly better trained security guard killed them.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You think that women wearing short skirts is anlogous to those inciting anger from radical Muslims and you think that this somehow reflects poorly on how I view women in short skirts? You analogy and your thought process is ridiculous sophomoric.
    wearing short skirts has been argued to be a justification of rape...the analogy fits this scenario pretty well.

    drawing Mohammed may incite anger in the same way a short skirt incites sexual thoughts.... neither justify an unlawful response, though... in both cases, the victim is 100% innocent of wrongdoing.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No, it is simply stupid that they felt they needed to exercise "free speech" like they did. Do you purposely say offensive things to people just because you want to? No, because common decency acts as a barrier to being a rude asshole. Does this stupid lady or her group deserve blame for the violence? No... are they stupid ****ing morons that should have not been intentionally disrespectful assholes that knew that many Muslims would be very offended and that violence might occur? Hell ****ing yes. Only a complete dip**** would not understand this... (not calling you one just to be clear mods)
    Yes, it's a given that when anyone is critical of Islam violence may occur. If that wasn't the case Muslims would be the butt of jokes everywhere.

    But in fact Islamic violence and intimidation should not be allowed to silence anyone and that issue must be addressed. Pamela Geller is one of a handful of people in this world who dares stand up against these religious nutcases and she deserves credit for doing so.

    You can let yourself be silenced through threats and intimidation, and ignore the violence being committed against Gays, women, heretics, and so on, but don't expect everyone else to follow in your shaky footsteps.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You think that women wearing short skirts is anlogous to those inciting anger from radical Muslims and you think that this somehow reflects poorly on how I view women in short skirts? You analogy and your thought process is ridiculous sophomoric.
    Sorry, but it's your side blaming the victim. Some things never change

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

    This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

    I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

    Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

    It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.
    lulz

    Nice one. Good on ya, Texas.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Here is how free speech works with a real not-insane religion when you poke fun at it:

    On the musical THE BOOK OF MORMON:

    The response of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to the musical has been described as "measured".[70] The church released an official response to inquiries regarding the musical, stating, "The production may attempt to entertain audiences for an evening, but the Book of Mormon as a volume of scripture will change people's lives forever by bringing them closer to Christ."[71] Michael Otterson, the head of Public Affairs for the church, followed in April 2011 with measured criticism. "Of course, parody isn't reality, and it's the very distortion that makes it appealing and often funny. The danger is not when people laugh but when they take it seriously—if they leave a theater believing that Mormons really do live in some kind of a surreal world of self-deception and illusion", Otterson wrote, outlining various humanitarian efforts achieved by Mormon missionaries in Africa in recent years.[72][73]

    Stone and Parker were unsurprised:[9]

    The official church response was something along the lines of "The Book of Mormon the musical might entertain you for a night, but the Book of Mormon,"—the book as scripture—"will change your life through Jesus." Which we actually completely agree with. The Mormon church's response to this musical is almost like our Q.E.D. at the end of it. That's a cool, American response to a ribbing—a big musical that's done in their name. Before the church responded, a lot of people would ask us, "Are you afraid of what the church would say?" And Trey and I were like, "They're going to be cool." And they were like, "No, they're not. There are going to be protests." And we were like, "Nope, they're going to be cool." We weren't that surprised by the church's response. We had faith in them.
    Also, Parker and Stone have received death threats for their depiction of Mohammed in South Park
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

    This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

    I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

    Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

    It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.

    The idiots drove 1000 miles to the event just to prove that an AR-15 in the hands of an idiot is not as dangerous as a 9mm in the hands of trained professionals.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Here is how free speech works with a real not-insane religion when you poke fun at it: Also, Parker and Stone have received death threats for their depiction of Mohammed in South Park
    The Mormons have demonstrated how a truly sophisticated and intelligent people should respond to criticism or farce, one far removed from many of the barbarians attached to Islam. Perhaps this approach will rub off on some of the more 'moderate' Muslims.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    My favorite coyote lure simulates the sound of an injured rabbit, and man does it bring them in. If I was worried about jihadists in my area I'd probably use cartoons and an elevated position. Better to draw them out then to wait and wonder.

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