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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Trying to barge into a building guns blazing is not what most of think of when we think of criticism
    How obtuse can you be?

    People are claiming that criticizing this bigoted cartoon festival is somehow off base because of the First Amendment. The shooting is a completely unrelated issue.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No but she certainly holds some blame in intentionally trying to provoke people just as I would be to blame if I was put a steak on my babies face with a pack of rabid dogs near by and they attacked.
    So she will be charged with what crime? Being an infidel?

    Inane and illogical comparison...





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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    You don't have to engage in any art..... to put a bullet in the head of a POS! Go Texas!
    Kinda tells us all we need to know. And it's nothing good. It's certainly nothing to do with Wilde'rs/Geller's concepts of 'art'. I'm guessing bullets must be kinda sacred for you.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If you can't keep the context of the comment then I understand why you are confused... it's OK, don't worry about it and wallow in ignorance.
    The person that appears to be wallowing is you, and its not in reality.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

    This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

    I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

    Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

    It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.
    Far and away no excuse for violence, but this was nothing more than a provocation, needless, senseless and ended with an injured security guard, but could have been worse. Is this really worth the exercise of free speech to draw cartoons that offend the sensibilities of some.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I've no issue with the content of the post except that 'art' wasn't any part of the equation. Polemics, yes. Controversy, yes. Provocation, yes. Art? Absolutely not.

    But that's fine. You don't have to be engaging in fine art to not be a target for intolerant bigotry. In fact, you can be engaging in intolerant bigotry (as were Geller/De Wilde et al) and still not merit murderous attention.
    I suppose you're right. Cartoons don't really qualify as art. But "Piss Christ"? Now that is art. The supporters of that fine work were certainly correct to say that it was an issue of free speech rights even if it did deliberately provoke a lot of people.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    . Is this really worth the exercise of free speech to draw cartoons that offend the sensibilities of some.
    Yes, it is.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So she will be charged with what crime? Being an infidel?

    Inane and illogical comparison...
    I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame. Learn to read.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Yes, it is.
    I'd like to be there when you suggested that to the security guards family, lol.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I suppose you're right. Cartoons don't really qualify as art. But "Piss Christ"? Now that is art. The supporters of that fine work were certainly correct to say that it was an issue of free speech rights even if it did deliberately provoke a lot of people.
    That seems like a fairly valid art-work to me. Art is about ideas, not about toeing a rhetorical line. What's your point? Twenty-eight years ago, that art was astonishing. The fact that Geller's exhibition wasn't anything to do with artistic expression, and everything to do with creating controversy, is neither here nor there. It still wasn't a valid target for suicide bombs or sharp-shooters. I'm still inordinately glad the attackers didn't get the opportunity to kill more 'heretics'.
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