Thread: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

traveling the world, I've never come across a christian who wanted me dead because of my beliefs.

Nor have I in my travels. Nor have I met or known members of any faith who wanted me to see me dead because of my faith. In truth, however, there are people, radical extremists, crazies, and madmen who indeed might wish us dead in the names of their twisted believes. Some are Muslim and some are Christian.

On 9/12, 13, 14 my wife and I spent 3 nights in Muslim owned B&B in Geneva. They could not have been more accommodating and we were good guests.

I grew up very close to a major university. My school classmates were from many countries, some of my friends were Muslim. When I served in the military some of the men I served with were Muslim. When I went to college and grad school some of my classmates and a few of my friends were Muslim. Shall I go on? None of these people or there families or Muslim friends wanted me dead because of my faith. We did not hate nor antagonize each other over religious beliefs.

Originally Posted by Cryptic

Matthew 17:27 clearly applies- giving needless offense (and risking avoidable confrontations) is something to be well..... avoided.

That aside, I agree about the principal forbidding the imposition of taste in a democratic society. That still does not change the applicability of Matthew 17:27 in this case.




I value free speech and Matthew 17:27.

Therefore, my criticism is not against free speech, but against those who see no value in avoiding needless offense. Please note, Matthew 17:27 forbids causing "needless offense", not "all offense".

One also reaps what one sows.

Originally Posted by Grant

Had those two Muslims read that they may have been living and productive members of society today.

Hate, stupidity, or ignorance - no matter.

Sadly, there will be more.

If the results continue to springboard from this incident, maybe they will just piss off and go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by BrewerBob

And the majority of Muslims would say that ISIS and AQ are not true Muslims. And both they and you would be commiting the No True Scotsman fallacy.

The fact remains, they do it in the name of their religions, whether you agree with their interpretation or not.

But don't worry, I won't judge you or other Christians by their actions. That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?

Yes it would, simply because I don't go out randomly and rape and kill under the authority of Jesus Christ. I don't know of any of Christians who do. And with all the defections toward radical Islam, by Muslims and others, (this guy in Az. was raised Christian and turned to radical Islam)..............it's very hard to tell the players w/o a program.

But they are true Muslims....they are typical of many Muslims worldwide. The stronger ones commit savagery, the weaker ones are preyed upon by the stronger ones.

Originally Posted by BrewerBob

I have slammed Obama and his predecessors for ignoring terrorism and attrocities in the less "strategic" parts of Africa, both Christian and Muslim in origin, many times. But our government, and I would say the majority of our population, just don't care about Africa.

I don't care about Africa...I admit it. When we have people in this country living in poverty...why not address that first? Bill Clinton was bragging yesterday, about all the good his foundation does in Africa.....why not take care of your fellow Americans...First? Same for Angelina Jolie and many others.

Originally Posted by LowDown

The LRA started by fighting an intertribal war and now is just roving the countryside killing, stealing and kidnapping to survive. There appears to be little in the way of Christian doctrine there. Most of their victims are Christian.

It doesn't look like the Eastern Lighting group has killed more than a dozen people; some of those killed are their own members.

Ahhhhh....the truth exposed. Careful LD...liberal douchebags will quiver and hide from the Truth!

Originally Posted by Risky Thicket

Actions and words born of hatred are always wrong even when they are legal.

And sooooo many liberals mistake hate for just plain common sense or disgust! And then....turn around and display hate themselves.

Originally Posted by LowDown

I recall something about Bush and later Obama sending US troops to help chase Kony through the bush. It's hard to fight them (the LRA) because they operate in very remote areas that are difficult to travel through.

Bush sent a hundred million to help fight AIDS in Africa, and this aid has continued.

Then Obama sent troops to aid in the fight against Ebola.

Total US foreign aid to African countries is in the billions of dollars every year.

It seems to me that concern for Africa among Americans and in the American government is substancial and bipartisan.

And I always thought this was a big waste of money as much of it is siphoned off by criminals and corrupt officials.