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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This seems to be a fine example of cognitive dissonance, an inability to accept the reality which is the world we live in. I have simply noted that there are those who call themselves Christian who demand that their women dress in an extremely conservative manner - it was not me who brought up conservative dress as another of those items to hold against Islam.

    To point out the ways in which RADICAL Christians and Muslims agree on various social issues is not blaming Christianity as a whole, just those who hold the views and who force the women of their group to act and dress in certain ways. Far too many evidently believe that any criticism of their group, small as it may be within a larger society, is an attack upon the entire society even though the majority don't agree with the tenets of the minority.

    I doubt it is possible for those living within the rigid confines of the True Believer community but I am NOT shrieking about THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! I am simply pointing at the utter hypocrisy of a tiny segment of those who call themselves Christian.

    Just as there are 'Christian' preachers who call for the execution or imprisonment of gays, there are Christian ministers who happily perform wedding ceremonies for gays - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian? There are Christian preachers flying around in private jets and owning multiple residences while others who call themselves Christian give up all they own and voluntarily live in poverty while helping the downtrodden - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian?
    Keep going. You just keep proving the point.

    In a thread about Muslims attempting kill because someone drew cartoons, with comparisons on Muslims killing, yes, even their own children, for dressing too western, you STILL bleat on about 'THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! Muslims butcher thousands for merely being non Muslim and people like you shriek But the CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS!!! Hang gay men from a bridge and you jump in defense and scream but the CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS...

    sort of like you are STILL doing.

    (I hope this isnt seen as thread hijacking. It IS the point. This thread is about Muslims that attempted to kill people over drawings. In response...people have suggested that we in this country really should jsut curtail our rights and freedoms and after all...if it wasnt for that Christian hate group holding the event none of this would have happened....and THATS where the train goes off the rails. The very SECOND this becomes a dialogue about ANYTHING other than Muslim extremism and the present danger it presents daily in the US, the likelihood of worsening events becomes more real.)
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
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    This thread is about Muslims that attempted to kill people over drawings.
    and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

    Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

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    The American Freedom Defense Initiative said it specifically picked the venue for Sunday's event, a school district-owned facility, because it had hosted an event denouncing Islamophobia in January.

    SoundVision, the organizers of the January "Stand with the Prophet" event, denounced Sunday's attackers and also criticized Geller's organization for "hate mongering."

    "Unfortunately, some insane persons, however, decided to give hate-mongers the attention they desired with their violent act. ... Once again, a bad name for the community," SoundVision said on its website. "We, the people of faith, must counter the war-terror-hate cycle with peace-love-respect."
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

    Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

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    Would you care to tell me which Christian organization is the equivalent of IS or Al Qaeda?

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

    Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

    from CNN
    This isnt about 2 lone Islamists. And of COURSE your immediate response to a Muslim extremist attack is to attack...who? Oh yeah....

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Would you care to tell me which Christian organization is the equivalent of IS or Al Qaeda?
    The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments."

    Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, it does. You can't have a war against a concept, and you don't defeat terror by using greater terror.
    So enlighten me Andy who were we at war with?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments."

    Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"
    That really explains a lot. Having to stretch to these kinds of ridiculous lengths is a bit pathetic. About as pathetic as Geller's stretch to try to encompass all of Islam as one great terrorist movement.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments." Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"
    And you feel these two groups few have heard of are the equivalent of ISIS and Al Qaeda???

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    First- "Don't mess with Texas" means what it says.
    Second- the two puss bags were killed by one cop with a pistol.
    Third-where are the Muslims denouncing this potential slaughter of everyone in the building had there not been security?
    Last- "Don't mess with Texas"

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    CAIR's response to this is typical. In a statement, CAIR said: "We condemn yesterday's attack on an anti-Islam event in Garland, Texas, without reservation. "We also reiterate our view that violence in response to anti-Islam programs like the one in Garland is more insulting to our faith than any cartoon, however defamatory. Bigoted speech can never be an excuse for violence".

    They never referred to a love of free speech, the free speech laws, Islamic attempts (often successful) to suppress free speech, or the First Amendment. Instead they focus on "anti_Islam", "bigoted speech" and hatreds against Muslims. CAIR Condemns Attack on Anti-Islam Event in Texas - CAIR

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